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I am still working on an old bottle (the largest)of Butch's. As a result of this thread, I may buy a smaller one to test, before replacing it. Most of my shooting is with lapped barrels and powders that do not present any special cleaning challenges. If one is looking for alternatives for cleaning at home, it would be hard to go wrong with Wipe Out, or for that matter Patch out. The Accelerator that the same company sells, works with either. I have left Wipe Out in my best barrels overnight, with no problem. A friend who may shoot a lot of rounds between cleanings has found that after removing Wipe Out the last time that it is to be use for that cleaning, that if he dries the barrel and then wets it with Butch's and brushes it a few cycles with a bronze brush, that whatever carbon that remains is easily (wet) patched out. IMO the Wipe Out loosens it but just not enough to come out with patches alone. At the range, I still use Butch's, and if I am not sure that it is getting the job done, after a lot of shooting, I will lightly oil a patch, work a little JB in with my fingers, and short stroke it, paying particular attention to the throat. After that I use wet patches to remove the JB and cleaning residue, and then dry the barrel, including special attention to the chamber.
+1Bore Tech Eliminator destroys all comers for copper and carbon, doesn't stink, and you can leave it in the bore...
It smells like horse pissBore Tech Eliminator destroys all comers for copper and carbon, doesn't stink, and you can leave it in the bore...
I have used Butch’s for many years as a powder solvent, it does have an ammonia smell, so, I guess it would attack copper fouling too.
I recently return to Hoppe’s for powder fouling and general cleaning and swabbing of the bore. A quart of Hoppe’s was $14 and change on Amazon Prime, and IMO it works fine as a general solvent. (I’m old enough to remember and like the smell too)
Once powder is gone I use a bit of JB or Isso to remove carbon fouling. I have tried just about everything on the market to get rid of carbon fouling with less then favorable results. So, if there is any copper (generally I only see copper during break-in, maybe under the carbon?), the JB or Isso will take care of it.
For the price Hoppe’s works to take out powder and clean up after JB or Isso leave their mess.
I bore scope every cleaning so I know what I use works.