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Broken case in die?

Last night I was processing several hundred .223 cases and had a case separate at the shoulder in the sizing die. I thought I was never going to get the top portion out but after a couple hours of trying various things it finally relented.

My question is, is there something that I should have been able to detected on the case to have prevented this, or is it just one of those 'yeah, that happens some times' things?

For all the trouble it was, I'm really glad it separated in the die and not in one of my rifles.
 

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My first question would be, how many time had it been reloaded?

If this was a first or second reloading my next question would be, What type of lubrication are you using.

My third question would be how do you clean and prep your cases before sizing?

My fourth question is does your die have any tool marks, corrosion, or trash in the die walls?

If you are bumping the shoulder too hard you may be crushing and/or expanding your case into the die wall. After several loadings you have weakened the case to the point of seperation.

.223s usually pull the case head off when stuck in a die.

Case neck splits and splits at the web are more common with the .223 than shoulder seperations.

Rustystud
 
>> My first question would be, how many time had
>> it been reloaded?
4 times. Full length resized after the first firing, then neck sized for the next three, this was the second full length resizing. And, if it matters, I seldom venture anywhere near max loads.

>> If this was a first or second reloading my next
>> question would be, What type of lubrication are you using.
Lyman spray lube.


>> My third question would be how do you clean
>> and prep your cases before sizing?
Tumbled in walnut, wiped clean, trimmed to length using a Wilson trimmer, case mouth chamfered using a RCBS chamfering tool, sprayed liberally with Lyman spray lube, rolled and sprayed again.

>> My fourth question is does your die have
>> any tool marks, corrosion, or trash in the
>> die walls?
Not that I could detect, other cases don't have any scratches or dents or orther signs of die problems.

>> If you are bumping the shoulder too hard you may be
>> crushing and/or expanding your case into the die wall.
>> After several loadings you have weakened the case to
>> the point of seperation.
A possibility, I'll have to more closely check the die setting in the future.

>> .223s usually pull the case head off when stuck
>> in a die.
I don't think it was stuck, though that's always possible. Since the first time I stuck a case in a die many years ago I always make sure they are clean and well lubed.

>> Case neck splits and splits at the web are more
>> common with the .223 than shoulder seperations.

Still, the question is, is there a way to have detected this before it happened? I know how to check the case body around the web for case thinning, but is there a way to check the upper part of the case?
 
The simple answer is - no. It appears most probably to have been a flaw in the metal and I know of no way you could have forseen it other than a close inspection of each case before sizing, and then you may not have seen it.

It is intersting though, as I have never heard of this problem before.

Out of interest, what gun and what load?

Also, how easily do the cases size with that lube? My experience with spray lubes is that they are so thin that they do not work very well. I use Imperial Sizing Wax and love it - but I am not loading in bulk.

George
 
The brass may have lost its ductile nature. I suggest you anneal the remaing brass. The fracture line may be the juncture line where the brass was originally annealed. Dependent on the quantity you may just want to scrap this batch of brass.

Nat Lambeth
 

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