• This Forum is for adults 18 years of age or over. By continuing to use this Forum you are confirming that you are 18 or older. No content shall be viewed by any person under 18 in California.

Borescopes, Every Good Competative shooter must have one......

mikegaiz

Stay frosty, my friend.
I feel very strongly that every person who is a good shoots in any type of Competition (especially for 1000 Yd Benchrest) should have a
Borescope,,,and use it religiously...

I think You should use it a lot before going to any match. We all know that is is far more important to have a squeaky clean, pristine barrel than it is to have a good load for the match. I can not over emphasize how important focusing on your barrel cleanliness is. Looking to here about your clean barrels at next years 1000 Yd. matches.......Happy Cleaning...



PS: A borescope will drive you crazy....Take it from me.....
tumblr_pr3n8z8Z4G1t62xgq_640.jpg
 
And yet so many records set and matches one by guys with no bore scope! Yet your pronouncement is that "everyone" should have one. Give it time the magazines will likely start to echo this and before you know it the lemmings will all be parroting it to no end!
 
Unless you are having a problem as revealed by the target (s) is there any reason for a bore scope speaking from a precision varmint / predator hunting viewpoint?

I never have and never will shoot bench rest either for competition or "fun" so maybe you need it for that sport I don't know. I salute those guys, the patience they have sitting at a bench shooting tiny group shot after shot but it would drive me crazy.
 
@K22
Been using bore-scopes for the last couple decades to clean customer barrels (as well as my own) and for all types (bolt actions, semi-auto, AR's, pistols, etc..). The one thing I have seen an overwhelming amount of, is barrel erosion and damage caused from inadequate cleaning. Repeatedly see signs that many barrels were likely never truly cleaned, with erosion being a major factor to the missed and left over layers, in forms of pitting, etching, and decomposer to the lands and grooves.

In my opinion, a bore-scope can pay for it self very fast, just in cleaning regiments alone. How much to clean and where all at, being the critical information you will learn by using them. Or so is my 2-Cents....
 
Last edited:
@K22
Been using bore-scopes for the last couple decades to clean customer barrels (as well as my own) and for all types (bolt actions, semi-auto, AR's, pistols, etc..). The one thing I have seen an overwhelming amount of, is barrel erosion and damage caused from inadequate cleaning. Repeatedly see signs that many barrels were likely never truly cleaned, with erosion being a major factor to the missed and left over fouling, in forms of pitting, etching, and decomposer to the lands and grooves.

In my opinion, a bore-scope can pay for it self very fast, just in cleaning regiments alone. How much to clean and where all at, being the critical information you will learn with by using them. Or so is my 2-Cents....

The whole blog i started is a Joke,,,, Come on guys????
but they will drive you crazy........
 
I am really confused, often according to my wife. I took the original post to be a tongue in cheek comment. Man, I am all mixed up....am I?
 
Obviously satire, but I don't understand the anti-borescope sentiment on here; I really don't.

Don't use one if you don't want, but the mere act of looking at the interior surface of a barrel doesn't actually hurt anything; in fact allows you to use one of your five senses to get a slight understanding as to what's going on... who knows though, some of you might be tasting your bores for carbon and copper build up. :eek::D

I just know the first thing a barrel mfg does when a barrel goes back for not shooting.

Just be smart about it, and let the target be your primary navigational beacon. ;)
 
I depend on my borescope to keep me ahead of any developing problems. It makes sure I don't fail with my cleaning regime to nip carbon & copper buildup in the bud. It's certainly easier to deal with a carbon ring at early stage, than to wait for a jump in pressure and drop in accuracy.

I also found a new barrel to have two chips (chunks) out of lands when scoping prior to chambering. The major barrel company replaced it quickly. I still wonder what would have been the price of components I would have used, trying to make it shoot.
 
@K22
Been using bore-scopes for the last couple decades to clean customer barrels (as well as my own) and for all types (bolt actions, semi-auto, AR's, pistols, etc..). The one thing I have seen an overwhelming amount of, is barrel erosion and damage caused from inadequate cleaning. Repeatedly see signs that many barrels were likely never truly cleaned, with erosion being a major factor to the missed and left over layers, in forms of pitting, etching, and decomposer to the lands and grooves.

In my opinion, a bore-scope can pay for it self very fast, just in cleaning regiments alone. How much to clean and where all at, being the critical information you will learn by using them. Or so is my 2-Cents....

In my experience at the range talking to fellow shooters, a lot don't have a clue how to properly clean a rifle barrel. One guy uses mineral spirits exclusively, nothing else and swears by it. Another guy tells me that a rod guide is a waste of money if you use a stainless rod because it's so stiff it won't bend. Very few lube the bolt lugs or clean the chamber, etc...

That brings it to me - also guilty - For years I used shooter's choice and believed that it was a do all cleaner (i.e. effective for both carbon and copper) because that's what I was taught. I cleaned after every 30 or so rounds w/ a bronze brush and rod guide. The patches came out pristine clean - job well done so I believe. It wasn't until wifey complained so much about the smell that I searched for an odorless alternative. I settled on Bore Tech Carbon and Copper remover products uncertain of their effectiveness but they didn't stink - wifey was happy - when wifey is happy - I'm happy.:).

The Bore Tech results were astonishing. I won't go into all the numerous examples or details; instead I'll described the results with my old Rem Model 700 243 which has a lot of rounds through it (I keep an exact round count for each rifle). I was ready to have it rebarreled due to the groups opening up quite a bit and occasional flyers. After talking to the Bore Tech rep (nice people) I tried his remedy and gave the old 700 multiple treatments of the Cu+2 (copper remover) over a period of several days after first cleaning with their Carbon Remover (C4). I had to repeat the treatment but finally it restored the barrel, at least to an acceptable level for me, groups averaging an 3/4 - 1" or so at 100 yards with no extreme flyers.

So I get your point about the bore scope - it might have revealed the inadequacy of the solvent I was using. After 50 years in this game I'm still learning and willing to learn more if it will help me not miss those ground hogs or predators.;)
 
Purchasing a borescope can often initially result in Borescope Anxiety Disorder (BAD). This severe disorder is characterized by feelings of deep-rooted anxiety that the barrel isn't as clean as you thought it was, which then leads to further anxiety and sleepless nights wondering whether that load that just won't quite tune in the way you want it, or that last 9 you dropped in a match, or the flier that went out of an otherwise stellar tiny group, might have all been due to that miniscule spec of carbon or copper fouling, or that tiny fire-crack or chip you previously detected with the new borescope.

The good news is that with regular and prolonged use, one usually acquires a new condition, known as Acquired boreScope Syndrome. As this new condition sets in, the feelings of anxiety and inferiority typically fade away into nothingness. From that point on, the owner of the borescope typically relaxes and will usually characterize its value and use as BADASS, indicating they've been through it and survived. ;)
 
Last edited:
OK...so.....I am hearing the name "teslong" and would like to pick one up. BUT...I see no less than ELEVTYSEVEN different choices on Amazon. Could someone, for the love of GOD, please narrow it down to a more manageable number to choose from with BBL inspection being the main purpose.

Thanks,
Tod
 
I'm kinda in the same boat, except I want one that works on a Samsung phone, Samsung Galaxy Tablet, laptop with Windows XP.

Thanks,
Don Dunlap
 
OK...so.....I am hearing the name "teslong" and would like to pick one up. BUT...I see no less than ELEVTYSEVEN different choices on Amazon. Could someone, for the love of GOD, please narrow it down to a more manageable number to choose from with BBL inspection being the main purpose.

Thanks,
Tod

Here’s the one I bought. No complaints whatsoever, but I have a desk top computer with a 42” flat screen tv for a monitor that is located with easy plug in reach of my work bench.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TTQF24F/?tag=accuratescom-20

If you want a rigid probe or want it to work with iPhone or iPad, there are other versions. Mine serves my purposes perfectly.
 
Many do not want to clean, or to know that they have to clean. Best to buy a new gun or grab another when one becomes no fun.
 

Upgrades & Donations

This Forum's expenses are primarily paid by member contributions. You can upgrade your Forum membership in seconds. Gold and Silver members get unlimited FREE classifieds for one year. Gold members can upload custom avatars.


Click Upgrade Membership Button ABOVE to get Gold or Silver Status.

You can also donate any amount, large or small, with the button below. Include your Forum Name in the PayPal Notes field.


To DONATE by CHECK, or make a recurring donation, CLICK HERE to learn how.

Forum statistics

Threads
165,525
Messages
2,198,004
Members
78,961
Latest member
Nicklm
Back
Top