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Best cartridge to shoot the 90g .22 cal projectile?

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At one time the 90g was the heaviest. .22 cal bullet on the market, right?
I (read,) the 90g Smk is what a lot of ftr shooters use right?
Iv seen several wright up's on how to load 90g in the . 223.
Just curious on what the best cartridge is for the 90g .22 cal bullet.
I'm toying with the 22bra and 90s.
Having real good groups with 80g Smk.
Been using slower powders.
With the 90s, should I stay with the slower powders? I feel safer using those.
Anyway thanks for looking, welcome any thoughts
Thanks
 
At one time the 90g was the heaviest. .22 cal bullet on the market, right?
I (read,) the 90g Smk is what a lot of ftr shooters use right?
Iv seen several wright up's on how to load 90g in the . 223.
Just curious on what the best cartridge is for the 90g .22 cal bullet.
I'm toying with the 22bra and 90s.
Having real good groups with 80g Smk.
Been using slower powders.
With the 90s, should I stay with the slower powders? I feel safer using those.
Anyway thanks for looking, welcome any thoughts
Thanks
Let us hear from the 90 gr shooters. I'm interested too. Years ago I had a 22-6mm but we didn't have these heavy .224s back then.
 
NRA F-Class competition has 2 divisions, F-T/R and Open. F-T/R is limited to 223 and 308. Those choosing to shoot the 223 are using the 90gr Berger bullet.
 
The 22x47, 22BR or any of it's variants, 22-250, and the a.i. version of it as well.

I have one friend shooting them in a 22 Creedmoor.

As far as which one is best. I think that depends on what you want to do with it.
Can you shoot them too fast and over spin them to the point of disintergration in the fast twist required to stabilize?
 
At one time the 90g was the heaviest. .22 cal bullet on the market, right?
I (read,) the 90g Smk is what a lot of ftr shooters use right?
Iv seen several wright up's on how to load 90g in the . 223.
Just curious on what the best cartridge is for the 90g .22 cal bullet.
I'm toying with the 22bra and 90s.
Having real good groups with 80g Smk.
Been using slower powders.
With the 90s, should I stay with the slower powders? I feel safer using those.
Anyway thanks for looking, welcome any thoughts
Thanks
The BEST cartridge is the 223, if the chamber is properly cut.

You'll get

Best barrel life
Lowest cost of components, brass for sure. I use LC
Lowest powder consumption
Very accurate out to and a little beyond 1000 yards.
Low recoil if thats a concern
2800 FPS muzzle velocity
 
The BEST cartridge is the 223, if the chamber is properly cut.

You'll get

Best barrel life
Lowest cost of components, brass for sure. I use LC
Lowest powder consumption
Very accurate out to and a little beyond 1000 yards.
Low recoil if thats a concern
2800 FPS muzzle velocity
What chamber reamer and fb for a .223 and 90 gr bullets?
 
There are actually a number of .224" heavy bullet choices that are used in F-TR and/or other disciplines at this point:

Berger 85.5 Hybrid
Hornady 88 gr ELDM
Sierra 90 gr Matchking
Berger 90 gr VLD
Sierra 95 gr Matchking

Can you shoot them too fast and over spin them to the point of disintergration in the fast twist required to stabilize?
Yes. This can be done in a .223 Rem, so it definitely can be done in a cartridge with greater case volume.
However, the key to jacket failures seems to lie in the bore diameter, and other minor contributing factors. In .223 Rem F-TR rifles with long (28"-30") 0.218" bore barrels, going with a twist rate faster than 7.0 is known to potentially be a problem for loads where the 88s/90s loads are being pushed up to around 2850 fps. Dropping the velocity down to the 2750-2775 fps range on loads in these setups seems to do the trick and mitigate jacket failure. In addition, using a shorter 0./218" bore barrel (i.e. </= 26" or so) seems to do the trick.

Alternatively, using a 0.219" bore barrel seems to alleviate most of the other contributing factors such as twist rate, barrel length, etc. With 30" barrel length and 0.219" bore, running twist rates faster than 7.0 and velocities in the 2850 fps range no longer seem to cause jacket failures the way they are sometimes known to do in a comparable 0.218" bore barrel. In other words, lots of little things can add up to become "the straw that broke the camel's back" in terms of jacket failure, but going with the 0.219" bore seems to largely alleviate the effect of the more common contributing factors.

How these factors affect .224" heavies in rifle cartridges much larger than .223 Rem is less clear, or at least, the upper limits where jacket failures might start to occur are less clear. In part, that may be because not so many shooters outside F-TR competitors are running barrels in the 30" length range. Much of the issue with the long heavy bullets is due to friction and their long bearing surfaces. Having a shorter barrel (26" or less) means a lot less friction. But it's still less clear exactly how hard the .224" heavies can be pushed in cartridges with much larger capacity than the .223 Rem but with shorter barrels and still survive to reach the target. I would certainly try to use a 0.219" bore barrel in a .22 hotrod if possible, regardless of barrel length.

The final consideration is the thickness/toughness of the bullet jacket. Not all manufacturers are created equal. I am not aware of any F-TR shooters having jacket failure issues with Sierra's 90 or 95 SMK bullets, which seem to have very tough jackets. I have personally blown up Berger 90 VLDs and Hornady 88 ELDMs in a rifle that had a 30" 6.8-twist barrel, as have plenty of other F-TR shooters. So if jacket failure is a concern, especially at the velocities possible with some of the .22 hotrod cartridges, the tougher jackets on the Sierra bullets might be a good place to start.
 
At our Range in Bend on are Monthly Matches at 8,9&1000 yards lot of .223/88gr. going down Range.
The Guy's shooting Palma .223 iron sight rifle and a sling.
They are doing very well with 88 gr. Hornady Bullets driven by Varget.
They have been going back and forth with Reamers for length of free bore ?
They say shoots well and cheaper.
 
I ran a 22 bra for almost 2 seasons. 95 gr smk, h4350, cci 250 @2930. .219 bore, not a single blown bullet out of roughly 3500 rds. I contribute that to one thing, .219 bore.
Curious, you know I might try that load. Looks interesting.
Why cci 250 ? Do those work good?
 

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