barrel rechambering.

[KMW 1954]

Have zero experience in this so looking for guidance.

What I have is a Savage 110 Switchback 22" light Varmint in 6ARC that I purchased used and was told it was a low count rifle. Though after a number of different loads I cannot get it to shoot. Am now looking at a Shilen replacement barrel for this gun. Which brings me to the question of reaming this old barrel to possibly a 6 Dasher.

Will most gunsmiths be able to tell if this barrel is worth the costs to rechamber or if it's too far gone?

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I doubt changing cartridges will fix it and unless damage is clear and evident, it's really hard for a smith to look at one, even with a bore scope and say, "this is a good or bad bbl," with much certainty. Though he might be able to guesstimate a rough round count if he knows what he's looking for.

I think I'd be inclined to try different loads and see what happens, assuming it doesn't appear to be obviously toast.

What loads have you tried in it? Load it just like a ppc and see what it'll do.

 

[mike mccormick]

If a barrel won't shoot, damned if I would waste time rechambering it. What I would try, however, is to cut an inch off of the muzzle end and recrown. Then see if it shoots.

 

[tikkaman308]

If a barrel won't shoot, damned if I would waste time rechambering it. What I would try, however, is to cut an inch off of the muzzle end and recrown. Then see if it shoots.

I have a Savage model 12 6.5 Creedmoor that wouldn't group for nothing, posted for advice.....was told recrown the barrel. I did just that,it'll shoot 1/2"groups at 300 all day with Hornady black ammo now.

 

[HTSmith]

I have a Savage model 12 6.5 Creedmoor that wouldn't group for nothing, posted for advice.....was told recrown the barrel. I did just that,it'll shoot 1/2"groups at 300 all day with Hornady black ammo now.

You need to be shooting matches. You'd win with that kind of performance.

 

[Mudcat]

I wouldnt waste my time, or your money, on a factory bbl, even a Savage, which, for factory bbls, can sometimes be very impressive. get a new blank and start fresh and be money ahead.

 

[KMW 1954]

it's really hard for a smith to look at one, even with a bore scope and say, "this is a good or bad bbl," with much certainty.

What loads have you tried in it? Load it just like a ppc and see what it'll do.

Thanks, that is the kind of advice I was looking for, especially since I have no experience at this.

As for loads I have shot through 100pcs of 87gr VMAX with 4 different powders, another 60pcs of 105gr Hornady Match with 3 powders and maybe 30 pcs of Sierra 80gr SP. Of which I had posted pictures of some of those. All were disappointing.

I was suggested by a few guys at my range to try taking the factory muzzle brake off and trying it.

 

[Jerry Wick]

Have zero experience in this so looking for guidance.

What I have is a Savage 110 Switchback 22" light Varmint in 6ARC that I purchased used and was told it was a low count rifle. Though after a number of different loads I cannot get it to shoot. Am now looking at a Shilen replacement barrel for this gun. Which brings me to the question of reaming this old barrel to possibly a 6 Dasher.

Will most gunsmiths be able to tell if this barrel is worth the costs to rechamber or if it's too far gone?

Isn't the ARC a PPC size boltface and the Dasher is a BR size boltface?
Or does the same boltface Savage extract both sizes?

 

[KMW 1954]

Isn't the ARC a PPC size boltface and the Dasher is a BR size boltface?
Or does the same boltface Savage extract both sizes?

They are not the same but then I wasn't asking about bolt faces was I?

 

[TylerFromMS]

They are not the same but then I wasn't asking about bolt faces was I?

He was probably asking a genuine question because he didn't know. No need to be all zesty.

 

[Jerry Wick]

They are not the same but then I wasn't asking about bolt faces was I?

He was probably asking a genuine question because he didn't know. No need to be all zesty.

Yep, that was a legitimate question. No need for the attitude.

Again, does the Savage pull either case or is it casehead specific???

 

[KMW 1954]

Yep, that was a legitimate question. No need for the attitude.

Again, does the Savage pull either case or is it casehead specific???

Response is due to the number of topics I've had derailed by unrelated questions. Not specifically related to you.

To answer your question, yes they are different case heads. the 6BR/DASHER uses the same case head as the 308. The ARC is a child of the 220 Russian. Savage makes it easy as all one needs to do is replace the bolt head. Costs about $25.00 So changing from the 6ARC to any other cartridge requires a head bolt change and then of course a barrel and magazine.

So once again we head off topic.

 

[KMW 1954]

He was probably asking a genuine question because he didn't know. No need to be all zesty.

w/o getting Zesty, why didn't you answer the question?

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I don't see any group pics. Try 29.5 of n133 a 68 grain berger or custom at varying seating depths starting at .005 in to ,010 out and report those results please. Warm load, so obviously work up and stop before you have too much pressure.

 

[TylerFromMS]

Response is due to the number of topics I've had derailed by unrelated questions. Not specifically related to you.

To answer your question, yes they are different case heads. the 6BR/DASHER uses the same case head as the 308. The ARC is a child of the 220 Russian. Savage makes it easy as all one needs to do is replace the bolt head. Costs about $25.00 So changing from the 6ARC to any other cartridge requires a head bolt change and then of course a barrel and magazine.

So once again we head off topic.

I wonder why Savage barrels shoot so gun even though they look so bad on a borescope?

I’ll help with the derailing!

w/o getting Zesty, why didn't you answer the question?

Because I didn’t know the answer. I don’t really speak up unless I’m 100% sure of the answer. Or if someone is being rude for no reason. BATs are sometimes advertised as pulling a PPC/BR. I shoot Pandas, so I don’t know. I’ve never owned a Savage because they make me nauseous to look at the shroud, frankly. They look like a lipoma or some growth. If I’m going to lose I’m going to look good and be comfortable doing it, and a Savage shroud does not promote that credo.

Some people ask questions because they want to know the answer. They may want to learn something. I don’t see another reason to ask a question, honestly. Some things may be common knowledge to you, but they’re not to everyone. Sometimes a question makes someone think of another question. I ask a lot of what some people would consider stupid questions.

And if you’re wondering, yes, I’m exactly like this in the real world.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Finding a Gunsmith to set up a Factory barrel in an attempt to rechamber it would be pretty remote.

The main reason being nothing on Factory barrels runs true with anything. Setting one up to establish a acceptable chamber would be difficult at best and the cost simply would not be worth it.

Also, Savage states their barrels are “Stainless Steel”. No specific grade of stainless is mentioned.

So even if you found a Gunsmith willing to tackle the rechamber, he might do it only if you furnished the reamer.

 

[KMW 1954]

Finding a Gunsmith to set up a Factory barrel in an attempt to rechamber it would be pretty remote.

Thank you for the insight. Another good reason not to bother.

 

[Uncle Bruce]

Thank you for the insight. Another good reason not to bother.

You mentioned that you have a factory? Muzzle brake, dumb question but have you definitely cleaned it ? I have a striker with a factory Muzzle brake that I never could get cleaned, ended up putting a different barrel on it. That fixed it.

 

[KMW 1954]

You mentioned that you have a factory? Muzzle brake, dumb question but have you definitely cleaned it ?

Yes it has a brake and yes it has been thoroughly cleaned.

 

[Jesswil61]

I may be completely of base but a 6ARC is typically a hot runner, have you really approached a good scrubbing cleaning for carbon in the throat focusing up to mid barrel length. Another thought would be a little heavier bullet? You mentioned it is used, have you been able to look at the throat area?