Baddest short action caliber

[ttfreestyle]

It not limited, gunsmith open the most up and put in Sako extractors all the time. In fact the Sako is a stronger extractor then the Rem and opening up the bolt allows the gunsmith to true the bold face. Both are better things. Matt

Actually this particular one is limited due to having a dasher barrel chambered for it already and was planning to have a 2 barrel setup to use until I can save up for a dedicated big game rig that I ultimately want. Guess I was trying to make due for a couple years til then.

 

[284winner]

Actually this particular one is limited due to having a dasher barrel chambered for it already and was planning to have a 2 barrel setup to use until I can save up for a dedicated big game rig that I ultimately want. Guess I was trying to make due for a couple years til then.

Yep I figured your plan was a switch barrel. Just real tough other than with a savage to swap bolt faces and go back to the original. You'd need another entire bolt. Which is another option actually. Practical plan tho.

 

[bigngreen]

This will probably send someone's head spinning but just shoot them with the Dasher and a 105 Berger hunting, they kill elk all the time in a 243 so the Dasher will roll them no problem, learn to shoot the Dasher well and an elk won't know any difference!!

 

[ttfreestyle]

This will probably send someone's head spinning but just shoot them with the Dasher and a 105 Berger hunting, they kill elk all the time in a 243 so the Dasher will roll them no problem, learn to shoot the Dasher well and an elk won't know any difference!!

It has crossed my mind to limit my distance and do just that this year and if I don't tag out that's ok, I go for the experience with my friends more than anything.

 

[ShootDots]

This will probably send someone's head spinning but just shoot them with the Dasher and a 105 Berger hunting, they kill elk all the time in a 243 so the Dasher will roll them no problem, learn to shoot the Dasher well and an elk won't know any difference!!

Anytime you put a bullet into the heart and or lungs, the animal will die. They will in fact bleed to death. That is an indisputable fact. However, small calibers do not possess the power OR frontal area to create L-A-R-G-E wound channels. In most cases, there is not enough bullet weight for penetration on a long raking shot. If you shot a 700+ pound Bull Elk who was unaware of danger, standing broadside inside 200 yards, in an open meadow, completely unalarmed, your choice would be fine. Under MOST hunting conditions, it is woefully inadequate. A majestic animal like a Bull Elk, where you spend time and dollars to pursue, deserves a cartridge that can put him down under just about any hunting circumstance. I hope the OP does not choose a Dasher for his Elk hunting rig.

 

[bigngreen]

I've watched to many elk piled up with a 243 and 105 combination to buy into that, elk respect shot placement above everything!
The last one I saw shot with a 105 bounced of the ground so hard he broke his lower jaw on a rock, found the bullet under the hide in the of shoulder, he was a 300 class bull so not a skinny spike, he was just as dead as if was shot him with a 338.

 

[bigngreen]

If more guys would hunt and shoot elk like they were carrying a bow or a 243 there would be a whole lot less elk dragging parts running around, an elk or any animal for that matter aside from a wolf is important enough for me to try to kill with a less than ideal shot, even heavy cals can fail, I can't count how many 300's I've seen just brake a shoulder because someone thought the gun was more important than placement.
I saw a very nice bull, scored 326 4/8ths destroyed by a young lady with one round placed behind his should at just under 400 yards with her 243, exit was a little over an inch and his lungs were trashed, he made it a few steps, wobbles a few and flipped over.

If your a hunter who can't hold it together and look for that one shot then no chambering or bullet mentioned in this thread will be adequate IMO, know your limits, wait for that 100% shot and a Dasher will kill every elk you pull the trigger on!!

 

[MTlager]

If more guys would hunt and shoot elk like they were carrying a bow or a 243 there would be a whole lot less elk dragging parts running around, an elk or any animal for that matter aside from a wolf is important enough for me to try to kill with a less than ideal shot, even heavy cals can fail, I can't count how many 300's I've seen just brake a shoulder because someone thought the gun was more important than placement.
I saw a very nice bull, scored 326 4/8ths destroyed by a young lady with one round placed behind his should at just under 400 yards with her 243, exit was a little over an inch and his lungs were trashed, he made it a few steps, wobbles a few and flipped over.

If your a hunter who can't hold it together and look for that one shot then no chambering or bullet mentioned in this thread will be adequate IMO, know your limits, wait for that 100% shot and a Dasher will kill every elk you pull the trigger on!!

I agree! They putting down game better than my 7 mm shooting 195 EOL"S !!! Need to have a bullet that will get adequate penetration !!!

Lonnie

 

[ttfreestyle]

Well as luck would have it just as I was ordering a blank for my short action I ran across a deal on a RMEF rem 700 Chambered in 300
Saum with a 7 saum extra barrel so problem is solved if it will shoot decent. Both are factory barrels so we will see how it goes. I will workup loads for both to see which wins out. Anyone have a good deer/elk load for either of these calibers, seems they aren't the popular kids on the block? Thanks for all the replys and help.

 

[Dubbo]

Well as luck would have it just as I was ordering a blank for my short action I ran across a deal on a RMEF rem 700 Chambered in 300
Saum with a 7 saum extra barrel so problem is solved if it will shoot decent. Both are factory barrels so we will see how it goes. I will workup loads for both to see which wins out. Anyone have a good deer/elk load for either of these calibers, seems they aren't the popular kids on the block? Thanks for all the replys and help.

What grain bullets are you thinking and are the barrels 24"?
For the 7 SAUM H4831SC and H4350 are good powders in my experience with 162-168 grain bullets.

 

[ttfreestyle]

7 saum is 22 inch, 168 grain most likely.

300 saum is 24 inch, 180 to 200 max is the plan.
I have h4350, h4831 sc, h1000 for starters. Thanks

 

[wholman]

243 sorry I like it.

 

[Jaybo]

284 win would be my choice with 180 Berger HVLD. i took a nice bull elk last year at 1025 yards.