Bad flyer

[Raydee]

Another thing no one does is tune up their firing pin and springs. Propper ignition is the #1 thing when it comes to rf accuracy

What are the proper steps to adjusting the pin and spring to get proper ignition?

 

[Timnichols]

I want to know this also my turbo strikes extremely hard.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

Unless you are having issues such as poor shooting results how hard it hits doesn't matter. it is how consistent, meaning how flat does it shoot? are you having shots go up and down from POA?

Under the same conditions are shots fairly level from each other from POA to POI? vertical spreading is a sign of inconsistent ignition.

Lee

 

[Timnichols]

This barrel just doesn’t shoot at an acceptable level compared to my other rifle. I have been told to hard of a hit results in excessive vibration in a turbo.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

This barrel just doesn’t shoot at an acceptable level compared to my other rifle. I have been told to hard of a hit results in excessive vibration in a turbo.

Ok you're saying the barrel won't shoot and think it is the ignition? if the barrel won't shoot then ignition is irrelevant at this point.

Too hard a hit would produce flippers in most cases highfliers but generally shoot good if the barrel is capable. also, if not tuned properly it will be hard to distinguish if it is an ignition problem, if tuned properly you will notice that change from POA to POI normally you will start to see vertical stringing. and just won't shoot flat.

Lee

 

[TRSR8]

I want to know this also my turbo strikes extremely hard.

In your case, and this is entirely dependent as to you being handy, I would shorten the pin tip slightly and put a small angle on the outside edge to bring strike away from rim.i would agree, too much pin strike.
Go slowly, you cannot put metal back on.

 

[603Country]

Back when I really cared about serious accuracy, when I got an unexplained flyer I’d mark the case. Another flyer or two with that case, I’d toss it away.

 

[tmwinds]

Back when I really cared about serious accuracy, when I got an unexplained flyer I’d mark the case. Another flyer or two with that case, I’d toss it away.

I believe we’re talking rimfire.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

In your case, and this is entirely dependent as to you being handy, I would shorten the pin tip slightly and put a small angle on the outside edge to bring strike away from rim.i would agree, too much pin strike.
Go slowly, you cannot put metal back on.

Tim,
Wouldn't it be better to try less spring before shortening the pin? maybe clip a coil off and see springs are easier to find versus a pin.

Lee

 

[TRSR8]

Tim,
Wouldn't it be better to try less spring before shortening the pin? maybe clip a coil off and see springs are easier to find versus a pin.

Lee

Lee, absolutely, meant to circle back with that and got busy.
Probably still adjust pin edge away from rim radius however.
As a matter of fact, I would consider swapping out spring entirely, personally, not a huge fan of D’Orio springs.
Joe and Lisa Chacon had Wilkinson springs and Stiller bought them out so I’d check either for those springs.
Thanks,
Tim

 

[Fire Dog]

If a mouse farts in the woods, a .22LR can get blown around....... just sayin'......

Yea, but if no one hears it, does it make any noise…??

 

[Emmett Dibble]

Same problem last year with Lapua ammo, contacted them and told me my rifle was the problem… multiple lots, same fliers. Good luck.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

Same problem last year with Lapua ammo, contacted them and told me my rifle was the problem… multiple lots, same fliers. Good luck.

Was this Lapua ammo bought when you tested at one of the centers or bought blind?

Lee

 

[Timnichols]

Tim,
Wouldn't it be better to try less spring before shortening the pin? maybe clip a coil off and see springs are easier to find versus a pin.

Lee

Yes I ordered a extra spring going to trim some off.

 

[dhagerty40]

I want to add one thing.. on 2 of my Anschutz rifles, They were Vertically stringing. After the recommendation of a gunsmith, I replaced the Firing pin springs, The vertical stringing went away.

Only want to say, before you start cutting the spring, see how it does with a new spring and go from there.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

I want to add one thing.. on 2 of my Anschutz rifles, They were Vertically stringing. After the recommendation of a gunsmith, I replaced the Firing pin springs, The vertical stringing went away.

Only want to say, before you start cutting the spring, see how it does with a new spring and go from there.

In this case from the case penetrations, it might be over driving the pin. this is a Turbo I believe and with the extra weight of the firing pin it has that extra momentum to drive the pin. so, backing off on the spring might help.

FYI, I shoot Anschutz as well and prefer the earlier models because of the heavier firing pin and better spring. if you did not know this the early 1700 54 has a about two coils extra then a Match 54 spring at least the Wolff replacements are. I have played with spring compression lengths using cut down rear pin guides for the older 54's and reverted back to the standard length.

Lee

 

[Emmett Dibble]

Was this Lapua ammo bought when you tested at one of the centers or bought blind?

Lee

4 lots blind… different speeds. All same as OP.

 

[TRSR8]

Same problem last year with Lapua ammo, contacted them and told me my rifle was the problem… multiple lots, same fliers. Good luck.

Likely…they’re right, plus a fair chance you’re wind reading.
Multiple lots, same fliers…..doubtful.

 

[TRSR8]

In this case from the case penetrations, it might be over driving the pin. this is a Turbo I believe and with the extra weight of the firing pin it has that extra momentum to drive the pin. so, backing off on the spring might help.

FYI, I shoot Anschutz as well and prefer the earlier models because of the heavier firing pin and better spring. if you did not know this the early 1700 54 has a about two coils extra then a Match 54 spring at least the Wolff replacements are. I have played with spring compression lengths using cut down rear pin guides for the older 54's and reverted back to the standard length.

Lee

Lee,
FWIW, when I had a couple 54’s, including sporter, as well as a few buddies, we had issues with wolf springs. Everything improved going back to factory springs, unaltered.
This, all with older, large bolt handle, wing safety 54’s.
Tim

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

Lee,
FWIW, when I had a couple 54’s, including sporter, as well as a few buddies, we had issues with wolf springs. Everything improved going back to factory springs, unaltered.
This, all with older, large bolt handle, wing safety 54’s.
Tim

Tim, you probably were seeing the same thing I was coil bind.

Lee