ATF Policy re Cannabis Use and Firearms Ownership

[J.d. Popkes]

Knowing a little about both substances. I feel confident in saying that alcohol is definitely the greater of the two evils.

Just bud light……

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I'm sorry but I can't possibly believe the federal gov't has any control over firearms, period...when we have a 2nd Amendment. Not much to understand here. Shall not be infringed, specifically to and by the feds...well, it means something to me, still. It's time for gun rights to go to the states....like the writers of the Bill of Rights knew all along. Federal gov't has NEVER been an entity to be trusted with such rights....never.

The South Shall Rise Again! Keep this crap up and we'll see what that always meant and it wasn't about slaves brothers. It was always about federal gov't power and overreach. I say let the left coast fund the feds. So, what were we talking about again? Oh, same thing?

 

[pirate ammo]

They should include Alcohol on that form as well.

OH NO, only damn thing I haven't quit or had to give up and now your going take it. Look out chicken boy I just might have to drink my way to Montana.

 

[pirate ammo]

And prescription medications

I had to give up my tequila and now your going after my happy pills, Next thing you know I'm not even going be able to play with myself, crap.

 

[pirate ammo]

I worked in the marine industry for a long time, subject to drug test 24 hours a day at any time. Didn't matter where or when you smoked it, on the job or three weeks before at home. If the stuff was in your system and you had a Mariners License it was taken away and you just went from a 500 - 600 dollar a day job to flippen burgers somewhere. Still the same as far as I know. Yep, I know some that lost there's.

 

[bill hounshell]

I’m sure most of these mass shooters that our liberal media report using legally purchased guns answered no on the box about the use of illegal drugs even though they live in weed legal states. If they use weed and answered no on drug they committed a crime (federal)

 

[abishai]

In Oregon, and I assume everywhere else weed is legal it is a cash only
business. I don't know if you can even drug test . There are a lot more pot shops than
gun stores . My LGS told me the ATF told him to deny sales to anyone that even asks
about the question

 

[pirate ammo]

deny sales to anyone that even asks
about the question

I was doing stuff like that 18 years ago here in Florida and then Texas. When they started saying the wrong things I would ask them to leave and come back in a week or two.

 

[JFrank]

OH NO, only damn thing I haven't quit or had to give up and now you’re going take it. Look out chicken boy I just might have to drink my way to Montana.

Hell they might as well add a line for anyone stupid enough the check the yes box in the first place.

Come on up Capt& I like sipping some shine from time to time.
Well go Bear hunting, I know where one lives but he gets pissed when we stop by Unannounced .

 

[freebird22/250]

I wonder if the convicted felons that are out on the streets are going to stop using Mary Jane now!!!

 

[DiffEQ]

In Oregon, and I assume everywhere else weed is legal it is a cash only
business. I don't know if you can even drug test . There are a lot more pot shops than
gun stores . My LGS told me the ATF told him to deny sales to anyone that even asks
about the question

It Isn't cash only here, but the shops sure do prefer it.
The wife uses weed for post cancer pain and anxiety medication. For over eight years, I have been the one buying at shops, presenting my ID, making edibles, etc.
In all that time, I've done over 40 background checks, at least three more for federal security clearances, perhaps 20 drug tests -- all clean, all instant approvals.
From what I've observed, weed is harmless. Alcohol and Valium, much more harmful, but still not so much. The ones that are scary (and these were all Schedule I Rx) : morphine, oxycotin, Xanax, gabapentin and fentanyl (yes, they used to prescribe it).
Morphine and oxycotin, in proper amounts makes the mrs. smile and sleep.
Xanax is like drinking a fifth of Don Q 151 - drooling, staggering, but without the vomit.
Gabapentin practically lobotomizes the patient. Wife was a Scrabble champion, but on Gaba, had trouble spelling t-h-e.
Fentanyl - you stop breathing. 'Nuff said.

I'm of the opinion that the opiate crisis was a manufactured issue, a precursor to Covid.
I also believe that part of being "well regulated" means sober and in control when you pick up that gun. When you're not carrying it, if you're smoking opium at brothels, that's your business. You just better possess all your faculties when you pick it up again.

 

[Dos XX]

Anyone wishing for federally legalized weed needs to think about it. Legalized weed and the 2nd amendment are not politically compatible in today's USA.

If you want to vote for someone that is for legalizing marijuana on the federal level, what are the chances of that person being pro 2nd amendment? Anyone have any viable candidates in their state that fit that description? I don't know of any. A true libertarian would be for both. We don't have any viable true libertarians that I know of.

 

[cheek9075]

They made pot legal in Virginia, you can't buy it or sell it but can grow it legally. Talked toa state trooper, sounds like they don't even look for it anymore much less enforce the laws on the books if you have over the legal amount on you. So you can grow it if someone gives you the seeds, have it own you and smoke it without anything to prove you have. Guess ATF can't enforce it in VA.

 

[Dos XX]

Medical marijuana is the biggest crock of shit I have ever seen. It isn't medical. It isn't being dispensed medically. It is an end around method of allowing marijuana to be sold in a state. It is skirting the rule of law.

Skirting the rule of law to allow something to happen that congress doesn't have the balls to pass legislation on is a very dangerous precedent. If the law is being skirted to allow something you want, you can bet your ass that someone is planning on skirting the law to allow something to happen that you don't want.

And I am not anti marijuana. I am anti bullshit.

 

[DRK]

And I am not anti marijuana. I am anti bubullshit.

Amen!

 

[NorCalMikie]

The ONLY reason for the Feds to legalize MJ is for the $$$$!!
Just like Shine. Legal = $$$$.

Folks with medical issues wanting something better than hard Rx zombie use MJ.
What's it gunna do, kill them? Their Illness will soon enough so leave them the hell alone.
Go after the crooked politicians and leave the sick MJ using folks alone.

 

[Just Say Moe]

Medical marijuana is the biggest crock of shit I have ever seen. It isn't medical. It isn't being dispensed medically. It is an end around method of allowing marijuana to be sold in a state. It is skirting the rule of law.

Skirting the rule of law to allow something to happen that congress doesn't have the balls to pass legislation on is a very dangerous precedent. If the law is being skirted to allow something you want, you can bet your ass that someone is planning on skirting the law to allow something to happen that you don't want.

And I am not anti marijuana. I am anti bullshit.

There is an old pharmacists saying - if it was any good, somebody would make it. The 2 drug THC derivatives that I am aware of are being made - with specific indications and doses backed up by double blinded studies.

 

[Flouncer]

Medical marijuana is the biggest crock of shit I have ever seen. It isn't medical. It isn't being dispensed medically. It is an end around method of allowing marijuana to be sold in a state. It is skirting the rule of law.

Skirting the rule of law to allow something to happen that congress doesn't have the balls to pass legislation on is a very dangerous precedent. If the law is being skirted to allow something you want, you can bet your ass that someone is planning on skirting the law to allow something to happen that you don't want.

And I am not anti marijuana. I am anti bullshit.

You are aware that there are Marijuana derivatives that contain no THC, they have no buzz or narcotic effect. There are some that are not medical bullshit. I do agree that there is abuse of the law on a large scale but your statement is emotional and half true.

 

[Dos XX]

You are aware that there are Marijuana derivatives that contain no THC, they have no buzz or narcotic effect. There are some that are not medical bullshit. I do agree that there is abuse of the law on a large scale but your statement is emotional and half true.

No. It is not half true. Maybe you don't understand what I mean by medical marijuana because you don't have it in your state, or I didn't make it clear. In my state, and in several surrounding states, we have medical marijuana dispensaries. Again, I am in no way anti marijuana. They, congress that is, need to put on their big boy pants and hash it out and either federally legalize it or kill it. What I am against is this bullshit reach around that is going on here.

Below is a link to a medical marijuana dispensary in Oklahoma. They have 2300 dispensaries in the state. Does that look like a medical facility to you? What they are selling is not a derivative that contains no THC. The doctor isn't giving anyone a prescription saying take 5 mg of this strain twice a day and come back in two weeks. You get the card and go pick out what you want.

There are 158 actual pharmacies in Oklahoma County, OK. according to countyoffice.org. There are 530 medical marijuana dispensaries in the same county.

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[Capt. Oblivious]

I know one or 2 guys that enjoy a MJ from time to time and the side effects are usually happy, hungry, sleepy. I cant imagine them running around robbing people with fire arms.