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ATF Confiscating Solvent Traps

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I can’t help myself, so here goes. A little bird told me that the solvent traps that the atf are after were sold on gunbroker. They got the sales list after harassing the seller.
This whole situation has got me thinking. Now put on your tinfoil hats. Could this just be a setup? Think about it. What kind of person might be tempted to purchase a “solvent trap”? Perhaps the increase in visits to citizens homes to collect these traps and other items (frt triggers) without a warrant are meant to provoke a reaction. That type of situation could be the catalyst for government legislation, or worse.

Think about it. Ruby Ridge happen because of a short barrel shotgun. The way these alphabet agencies have been acting over the course of my life has gotten worse and worse. Always considered myself a patriot. Not sure what to think now.

Rant over. Flame suit on.
 
1badgoat said:
I can’t help myself, so here goes. A little bird told me that the solvent traps that the atf are after were sold on gunbroker. They got the sales list after harassing the seller.
This whole situation has got me thinking. Now put on your tinfoil hats. Could this just be a setup? Think about it. What kind of person might be tempted to purchase a “solvent trap”? Perhaps the increase in visits to citizens homes to collect these traps and other items (frt triggers) without a warrant are meant to provoke a reaction. That type of situation could be the catalyst for government legislation, or worse.

Think about it. Ruby Ridge happen because of a short barrel shotgun. The way these alphabet agencies have been acting over the course of my life has gotten worse and worse. Always considered myself a patriot. Not sure what to think now.

Rant over. Flame suit on.
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I think you nailed it. My thinking has been along the same lines. “They” keep pushing and hope for a reaction that they can put on the “News” and say “See! See?!? All these gun guys are dangerous!”
 
I relate. I was 15 when JFK got his bead blown off. It didn't make sense to me then and
there's no doubt now. LH Oswald supposedly shot 3 rounds from the Right Rear of the
president's vehicle but his head flew back and to the left and his wife crawled over the Trunk trying to grab a piece of his skull.
According to graphical acoustics, it proved at least 3 shots were fired in 5.6 seconds. The
problem is the first 2 were fired in 1.6 seconds with a 6.5 Italian Carcanno bolt action
rifle?? Pretty fast operator!!
The moon landing was impossible due to the Van Allen Radiation belt and the Gulf of Tonkin supposed attack never took place that started the Vietnam War.
I've been a Conspiracy Theorist since so your hypothesis is welcome here.
 
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1badgoat said:
I can’t help myself, so here goes. A little bird told me that the solvent traps that the atf are after were sold on gunbroker. They got the sales list after harassing the seller.
This whole situation has got me thinking. Now put on your tinfoil hats. Could this just be a setup? Think about it. What kind of person might be tempted to purchase a “solvent trap”? Perhaps the increase in visits to citizens homes to collect these traps and other items (frt triggers) without a warrant are meant to provoke a reaction. That type of situation could be the catalyst for government legislation, or worse.

Think about it. Ruby Ridge happen because of a short barrel shotgun. The way these alphabet agencies have been acting over the course of my life has gotten worse and worse. Always considered myself a patriot. Not sure what to think now.

Rant over. Flame suit on.
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Some of the best Marksmen in the U.S. Army ; ( Snipers ) tried to duplicate that "feat" , using the same type rifle . From a Tower , and duplicating distance , angles , movement , and speed of the Target . IT COULD NOT BE DONE ! By anyone present . Take it for what it's worth , but you only have to ask one question about the Kennedy assassination . Who stood to gain from it ? Answer ? Just one man ....
 
C_Ackley said:
Not needed, 3 letter executive agencies are not well liked since they exist to tax you and jail you for things that were legal, until they exercised their extra-legislative powers to make it illegal.
Where is the upside for the ATF's existence? Whose interests are they serving?
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They need to be dufunded and escorted out so they dont steal anything. The fbi needs the same
 
D-4297 said:
Some of the best Marksmen in the U.S. Army ; ( Snipers ) tried to duplicate that "feat" , using the same type rifle . From a Tower , and duplicating distance , angles , movement , and speed of the Target . IT COULD NOT BE DONE ! By anyone present . Take it for what it's worth , but you only have to ask one question about the Kennedy assassination . Who stood to gain from it ? Answer ? Just one man ....
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Oh I'm afraid it goes bigger and deeper than just one man Much Much Bigger and Much
Much Deeper!
 
ATF seems to fall right in line with Joe's last 2 semi-coherent speechs, democrats blasted all law enforcement/criminal justice to pander votes. Now when it's biting them in the ---, they need to turn constitutionalists into terrorist(just as they did parents during crt school board meetings). Let the dems hang themselves, don't give them an out.
 
22BRGUY said:
Oh I'm afraid it goes bigger and deeper than just one man Much Much Bigger and Much
Much Deeper!
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I know it goes deeper ; and there were many involved , but LBJ walked away from his involvement in Nam with over 76 Billion in Blood money . P A & E , L.R.R.P's. , Body Bags , and all those pretty silver coffins . It's all in the Congressional Record . And nobody did a thing about that amount of corruption .
 
rwj said:
Any notions as to why the 45th President didn’t declassify the related files?
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This nation has had 4 presidents assassinated and attempts on others all for the same
reason by the same group and every president since Kennedy is well aware of what
a "Kennedy Haircut" means. It takes tremendous Power to e able to assassinate presidents.
Andrew Jackson fought them tooth and nail and JFK created Executive Order 11110.
If you do research on those four and look for the similarities, the answer is apparent.
The New World Order Great Reset is about the same group and the same reason.
I have no idea why it's been reported that DJT didn't declassify if there were even
files to be declassified or was the entire event a distraction psyop for the masses.
I believe virtually nothing anymore about what is reported by the main stream
media, especially since BHO made press propaganda Legal.
It says in the Good Book that The LOVE of Money is the Root of ALL EVIL! and that has held true throughout the centuries. Money and Power go hand in hand and as for Biden and Trump I view them as puppets under the control of the Global Puppet
Masters. and the Media with few exceptions, is owned as well.
Take the time to listen to JFK's Secret Societies Speech where he clearly describes
what this nation is up against.
 
Nick Caprinolo said:
First of all, I am in complete agreement with the 2nd Amendment.

For many years, we have lived with the fact that certain aspects of firearms regulations were the law of the land. Well not really laws but rather rules and interpretations of ATF. Suppressors have been regulated by ATF as well as completely prohibited in many states.

Under existing rules, pay your $200.00 tax along with your application and after approval you could build your own suppressor or take possession of one you purchased.

The proliferation of Solvent Traps made it possible to circumvent every established rule regarding suppressors with impunity. In the past, you could purchase the solvent trap and as long as you did not alter it prior to obtaining a tax stamp, everything was legal and above board.

A new commercially purchased suppressor cost over $500 and in many cases just under $1,000. Solvent traps on the other hand cost less that $50.00. Own a drill and you can build your suppressor. That's something to think about. Do you think that maybe the commercial manufactures might have started all this by complaining to the ATF?

So the questions are many here. How many of you have bought a solvent trap and actually used it as a device to trap solvent???????

Why are the inserts included in a solvent trap? They aren't needed to simply trap solvent.

I have seen solvent traps being used at the range. One shooter demonstrated a converted solvent trap and a high dollar suppressor. I couldn't tell the difference in noise level.

While I am opposed in this new ruling, it is not hard to understand why it was enacted.
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It was enacted because they are tyrants.
 
D-4297 said:
I know it goes deeper ; and there were many involved , but LBJ walked away from his involvement in Nam with over 76 Billion in Blood money . P A & E , L.R.R.P's. , Body Bags , and all those pretty silver coffins . It's all in the Congressional Record . And nobody did a thing about that amount of corruption .
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You're on the right track but the question isn't how much LBJ got...The question is
WHO Had to money and Power to give it to him?? WHO Had the Power to BUY him
and BRIBE him?? WHAT Was THEIR PAYOFF?? WAR IS VERY PROFITABLE FOR SOME!!
As it has been in the past and is so today.
 
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