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Are drones for hunting like sonar for fishing

Boomer79 said:
the drone does not alter the natural movement of the animal;however,the game feeder lures the deer to an ideal shooting spot. The drone could also help find a wounded animal.

The same could be said for walkie talkies... but they are banned in many states for hunting. Part of the unfair chase concept.
 
Unfair? By offering the hunter an easier way to detect animals, and a greater chance for success is hardly unfair. Is the use of a scope an unfair advantage over the hunter using open sights? And the use of a gun, rather than a bow? How about the 1000+ yard hunters setting up a shooting bench, 200 power spotting scope, and a partner calling the shots? Unfair also? The drone would also give you the opportunity to locate others in the vicinity before you let that bullet fly. The use of a drone is quite simply another tool for hunters to take advantage of.
 
Here's some actual scouting video from a drone:

The deer don't look spooked at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=402-09XZwzg
 
Boomer79 said:
the drone does not alter the natural movement of the animal;however,the game feeder lures the deer to an ideal shooting spot. The drone could also help find a wounded animal.
That's were bloodtrails and tracking skills come in
 
JRS said:
Unfair? By offering the hunter an easier way to detect animals, and a greater chance for success is hardly unfair. Is the use of a scope an unfair advantage over the hunter using open sights? And the use of a gun, rather than a bow? How about the 1000+ yard hunters setting up a shooting bench, 200 power spotting scope, and a partner calling the shots? Unfair also? The drone would also give you the opportunity to locate others in the vicinity before you let that bullet fly. The use of a drone is quite simply another tool for hunters to take advantage of.

I didn't say I agree with it.. it just is what it is. Most people that make game laws are not hunters, they are political busy-bodies, and some are anti-hunting and the more they can encumber hunting, the better they feel.

My state didn't ask me to write the hunting laws here.

I think most will ban drones, except maybe for predators and culling.
 
CatShooter said:
JRS said:
Unfair? By offering the hunter an easier way to detect animals, and a greater chance for success is hardly unfair.
Well maybe the DNR/GFP what have you agency should just BIRTH ALL the animals in pen and let you just pick one and shoot it, or maybe fit the newborns with radio collars and give a "hunter" the receiver when he gets his license, Hell just chain it to the fence post. What's the world coming to....Never mind, I can see from reading
 
CatShooter said:
JRS said:
Unfair? By offering the hunter an easier way to detect animals, and a greater chance for success is hardly unfair. Is the use of a scope an unfair advantage over the hunter using open sights? And the use of a gun, rather than a bow? How about the 1000+ yard hunters setting up a shooting bench, 200 power spotting scope, and a partner calling the shots? Unfair also? The drone would also give you the opportunity to locate others in the vicinity before you let that bullet fly. The use of a drone is quite simply another tool for hunters to take advantage of.

I didn't say I agree with it.. it just is what it is. Most people that make game laws are not hunters, they are political busy-bodies, and some are anti-hunting and the more they can encumber hunting, the better they feel.

My state didn't ask me to write the hunting laws here.

I think most will ban drones, except maybe for predators and culling.
You're probably correct. States such as CA, NY, WA, and CO come to mind immediately.
 
CatShooter said:
JRS said:
Unfair? By offering the hunter an easier way to detect animals, and a greater chance for success is hardly unfair. Is the use of a scope an unfair advantage over the hunter using open sights? And the use of a gun, rather than a bow? How about the 1000+ yard hunters setting up a shooting bench, 200 power spotting scope, and a partner calling the shots? Unfair also? The drone would also give you the opportunity to locate others in the vicinity before you let that bullet fly. The use of a drone is quite simply another tool for hunters to take advantage of.

I didn't say I agree with it.. it just is what it is. Most people that make game laws are not hunters, they are political busy-bodies, and some are anti-hunting and the more they can encumber hunting, the better they feel.

My state didn't ask me to write the hunting laws here.

I think most will ban drones, except maybe for predators and culling.

I'll be more blunt and less politically correct: Anyone that uses a drone to locate big game animals and is too lazy to walk around and scout is not really hunting. Its just another excuse for the anti's to call us out as selfish killers and eliminate our sport. Someone brought up 1000 yard shots and scoped rifles, but you still need to walk or move around an area to find the animal then get in position to take a long shot like that. Then you need to account for wind, ballistics, etc and its not so easy. Based on the video I posted, you can send up the drone, find deer in minutes, walk through the wood's edge and take a shot. Boom! Your "hunt" is finished in 15 minutes and you are back home in time to catch the kick off on the couch. Is that what we are becoming? A lazy bunch of hacks. Why go? Just go to the grocery store. Its cheaper and easier.
 
CJ6 said:
CatShooter said:
JRS said:
Unfair? By offering the hunter an easier way to detect animals, and a greater chance for success is hardly unfair.
Well maybe the DNR/GFP what have you agency should just BIRTH ALL the animals in pen and let you just pick one and shoot it, or maybe fit the newborns with radio collars and give a "hunter" the receiver when he gets his license, Hell just chain it to the fence post.
Why not ditch your computer and write letters ;D it happens to be the old way ;)
 
JRS said:
CatShooter said:
JRS said:
Unfair? By offering the hunter an easier way to detect animals, and a greater chance for success is hardly unfair. Is the use of a scope an unfair advantage over the hunter using open sights? And the use of a gun, rather than a bow? How about the 1000+ yard hunters setting up a shooting bench, 200 power spotting scope, and a partner calling the shots? Unfair also? The drone would also give you the opportunity to locate others in the vicinity before you let that bullet fly. The use of a drone is quite simply another tool for hunters to take advantage of.

I didn't say I agree with it.. it just is what it is. Most people that make game laws are not hunters, they are political busy-bodies, and some are anti-hunting and the more they can encumber hunting, the better they feel.

My state didn't ask me to write the hunting laws here.

I think most will ban drones, except maybe for predators and culling.
You're probably correct. States such as CA, NY, WA, and CO come to mind immediately.

In some states you can't even use a trail camera nor use communications equipment of any type during a hunt. Montana, Minnesota, South Dakota all have laws in place like this. Can't imagine drones getting approved in these states either.
 
JRS said:
CJ6 said:
CatShooter said:
JRS said:
Unfair? By offering the hunter an easier way to detect animals, and a greater chance for success is hardly unfair.
Well maybe the DNR/GFP what have you agency should just BIRTH ALL the animals in pen and let you just pick one and shoot it, or maybe fit the newborns with radio collars and give a "hunter" the receiver when he gets his license, Hell just chain it to the fence post.
Why not ditch your computer and write letters ;D it happens to be the old way ;)
I do still write letters. :P.. ;D. It's the whole Tech. "easier to hunt" thing. People are losing their woods craft skills and it's a sad thing IMHO. Canned hunts are becoming the norm. :( :( :( :(
 
JRS said:
Unfair? By offering the hunter an easier way to detect animals, and a greater chance for success is hardly unfair. Is the use of a scope an unfair advantage over the hunter using open sights? And the use of a gun, rather than a bow? How about the 1000+ yard hunters setting up a shooting bench, 200 power spotting scope, and a partner calling the shots? Unfair also? The drone would also give you the opportunity to locate others in the vicinity before you let that bullet fly. The use of a drone is quite simply another tool for hunters to take advantage of.

Well yes, as humans our use of technology already presents an unfair advantage over our quarry. Exactly where you draw the line of what constitutes TOO unfair is the question. How unfair do you need/want it to be?

As a sport, it behooves us to show restraint. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

-nosualc
 
CJ6 said:
JRS said:
CJ6 said:
CatShooter said:
JRS said:
Unfair? By offering the hunter an easier way to detect animals, and a greater chance for success is hardly unfair.
Well maybe the DNR/GFP what have you agency should just BIRTH ALL the animals in pen and let you just pick one and shoot it, or maybe fit the newborns with radio collars and give a "hunter" the receiver when he gets his license, Hell just chain it to the fence post.
Why not ditch your computer and write letters ;D it happens to be the old way ;)
I do still write letters. :P.. ;D. It's the whole Tech. "easier to hunt" thing. People are losing their woods craft skills and it's a sad thing IMHO. Canned hunts are becoming the norm. :( :( :( :(
The drone thing is modern technology, and i'm all for it. I really don't care whether they are used. Other than grouse, dove, and quail hunting, I use one of my longbow's for hunting. A drone wouldn't serve me too well in the woods ;D Of course, once Cigarcop has completed my 264 Win mag, i'll put it to good use. Our front and back yards are loaded with deer every day and night ;)
 
I guess I've never thought of the idea of drone recon for big game hunting. I'm not sure if you have ever flown a drown/quadcopter but one with the capabilities you would want are pricey and that is a whole lot of money to be cruising around areas where it could be crashed very easily. I'm not sure of your geography but I have never been able to sneak up on a deer in the woods even if I knew right where they were. Perhaps if it were raining and I had cover noise. Last thought, drones are quite large, as is the supporting gear, then you have your hunting gear. Assuming your not hunting off your front porch this would be a lot of stuff to lug around.
 
One last thought, I have no issue with using them on the hog population in the south. They already use NV, thermal, helicopters, explosives. You might as well use drones to spot those things.
 
This whole new tech assisted hunting is starting to wear on me. I'm going back to an armful of spears and a loin cloth.
 
I just don't think it would work.
Even a very small drone is noisy, and would function only to harass game.

Given this, there may be potential for herding nuisance game(like wild hogs).
But wear loin cloth at least. Please
 
;) ;) ;) Get the DNA people busy, clone the 30 pointer/s , line 'em up on the hitch'en post , push click on your mouse/phone from XXXX' miles away. bing bang boom you're done... No fuss, No Muss.... and you da man, top dog hunter. ::) ::) ::) ::) I'm gonna puke now.....
 
hogpatrol said:
This whole new tech assisted hunting is starting to wear on me. I'm going back to an armful of spears and a loin cloth.

I would pay to see that. Please let there be no wind. I would not pay to see that.

:)
 
Well it depends on the culture you were raised in I guess.

Around here, NC, they hunt deer from the road, after buddies have released 'deer dogs' on other side of a block of woods.. Where I grew up, PA, it was considered a duty to shoot any dog that chases deer -immediately. And we did. I did.

As bazaar(to me) is to see folks describe PD shooting as 'hunting'. IMO it might as well be a video game.
 

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