Any way to push a primer pocket foward?

[MikeMcCasland]

If a primer pocket was pushed towards the case head, is it possible to push it back out?

Current depth is .101, depth on a new pocket should be around .120. 6BRA brass.

Dillion super swage is an option, or uniform it, but I suspect there's not enough material to uniform it out.

 

[GLShooter]

Primer pocket uniformed. Power tools make it a piece of cake.

Greg

 

[MikeMcCasland]

Primer pocket uniformed. Power tools make it a piece of cake.

Greg

I don't think there's .020 of material to uniform out, is there?

 

[Dub]

I don't think there's .020 of material to uniform out, is there?

No. How did it get pushed out?

 

[358WCF]

If a primer pocket was pushed towards the case head,

I'm almost afraid to ask, but how was this accomplished?

Call me chicken, but with that kind of movement, then reapplying that much force again in the other direction, I'm not sure that I would want my face near the rifle next time it's fired.

 

[JTEX]

Well....I know,one way to accomplish it.....

I had a chuck mine and start over. I was cheesed!

Decapping stem set too long.

 

[MikeMcCasland]

No. How did it get pushed out?

Short Version: I'm a complete moron. This probably comes as a surprise to many here.

Long Version: There's a reason folks run Harrells BRA dies, and I think I just found out why. I normally don't set my press to "cam over", but with my 6BRA I have to in order to get enough bump with a Wilson die. I guess I had the decapping rod set too far out, but it looks like it smashed the primer pockets towards the case head about .020".

With the press setup to cam over, you can't feel it.

300 pieces of 3x fired, and neck turned brass is trashed I fear...posting as a hail marry.

 

[DaveTooley]

Pics we want pics.

 

[DaveTooley]

I don't know if there's .020" left to trim. My guess is there is. You can put a pretty good chamfer on the inside. It won't be dangerous. Pressure is equalized on either side of the flash hole. I once chamfered some PPC cases too deep. The chamfer was so deep the flash holes measured over .080" . Shot better that way on that particular rifle.
trim one and see.

 

[joshb]

300 pieces? Don’t toss them. Borrow a swager. That might do it. If you don’t want to, send them to me. I’ll pay shipping! Heck, I’ll give you $50 for it!
I think it will take the stress of being pushed back! Swage it.
How many times do you reform the other parts of the case without an issue?

 

[Straightshooter1]

Short Version: I'm a complete moron. This probably comes as a surprise to many here.

Long Version: There's a reason folks run Harrells BRA dies, and I think I just found out why. I normally don't set my press to "cam over", but with my 6BRA I have to in order to get enough bump with a Wilson die. I guess I had the decapping rod set too far out, but it looks like it smashed the primer pockets towards the case head about .020".

With the press setup to cam over, you can't feel it.

300 pieces of 3x fired, and neck turned brass is trashed I fear...posting as a hail marry.

It might be possible to push it back if you happen to have a Forster Co-Ax press where you can use a correct sized pin in the priming part of the press. Or, you might take a pin the diameter of the case mouth and insert it to the base and sticking out of the case, then hammer on a pin that inside the pocket to force the base of the pocket back in position. BUT. . . no matter how you might go about pushing it back, am not sure how that'll effect the integrity of the pocket as all of that web is pretty hardened by now.

 

[Bc'z]

Short Version: I'm a complete moron. This probably comes as a surprise to many here.

Long Version: There's a reason folks run Harrells BRA dies, and I think I just found out why. I normally don't set my press to "cam over", but with my 6BRA I have to in order to get enough bump with a Wilson die. I guess I had the decapping rod set too far out, but it looks like it smashed the primer pockets towards the case head about .020".

With the press setup to cam over, you can't feel it.

300 pieces of 3x fired, and neck turned brass is trashed I fear...posting as a hail marry.

Mike I got a Dillon Super Swager you can borrow.
I also had a shell holder faced off for proper bumb with my Wilson 6.5-284 die.

 

[MikeMcCasland]

300 pieces? Borrow a swager. That might do it. If you don’t want to, send them to me. I’ll pay shipping! Heck, I’ll give you $50 for a chance to try it!
I think it will take the stress of being pushed back!

I've got a Dillon 600 "super swager", but can't easily figure out how to set it up to jam the pocket forward. It seems like its really for expanding the pocket more than anything...but I'm no expert on using this thing. Only bought it because I got a pallet of .mil brass for ARs way back in the day.

Off to YouTube to see if it can be done.

 

[MikeMcCasland]

Pics we want pics.

I'm priming with a CPS. I'm a big dude. I can put a LOT of leverage on these primers, and this is as flush as they get.

 

[joshb]

I've got a Dillon 600 "super swager", but can't easily figure out how to set it up to jam the pocket forward. It seems like its really for expanding the pocket more than anything...but I'm no expert on using this thing. Only bought it because I got a pallet of .mil brass for ARs way back in the day.

Off to YouTube to see if it can be done.

Yay. Give it a try! Can you measure the height of the “button” to see if it’s tall enough?

 

[Bc'z]

I'd try and uniform a couple and see how they respond.
I'm suggesting this as I use a uniformer to clean pockets between firings and always remove a little brass each time. If it works out ok you could possibly get some more life out of this batch.

 

[MikeMcCasland]

Sent you a pm

Didn't get one; you sure you sent it to me?

Also, I fixed it.



Followed by screwing some whidden die parts onto the decapping rod, so I can actually secure the bushing, but not smash primer pockets at the same time.

 

[fkimble@charter.net]

Dillion Super Swage is for removing the crimp, not for deepening or uniforming the pocket depth. By design, it is made to not touch the pocket bottom. It rolls the crimp out of the mouth of the primer pocket.

Frank

 

[KMart]

Short Version: I'm a complete moron. This probably comes as a surprise to many here.

Long Version: There's a reason folks run Harrells BRA dies, and I think I just found out why. I normally don't set my press to "cam over", but with my 6BRA I have to in order to get enough bump with a Wilson die. I guess I had the decapping rod set too far out, but it looks like it smashed the primer pockets towards the case head about .020".

With the press setup to cam over, you can't feel it.

300 pieces of 3x fired, and neck turned brass is trashed I fear...posting as a hail marry.

Oh, my!!!

 

[DaveTooley]

I would section the one you cleaned up. The ring shown on the pic looking in the case mouth raises a few questions.