It started life as my F-TR rifle back in 2005. The rifle shot great then. Not so much now. Will test again after cleaning.How’s it shoot?
It started life as my F-TR rifle back in 2005. The rifle shot great then. Not so much now. Will test again after cleaning.How’s it shoot?
This is what I do. But I measure carefully and mark the rod so I make sure I dont drift into the lead during the process.Pistol rod and oversize brush, chucked in a drill. Run for a few seconds and it'll be gone.
My rings are on the chamber side, opposite yours.This is an image of the ring after multiple cleanings and shows the last bit of carbon. Thanks for all the suggestions. Plan to soak for a while and use an oversize brush then a brush with patch. If needed I will use another round of Thorro Clean. I did measure where the ring is and tried to stay off the lands as much as possible. As you can see the ring is right at the lands.
There was plenty of carbon at the end of the neck. I trimmed the necks of the brass and could see where the carbon buildup was starting. Lucky I had the borescope and saw that while it was fresh. All of that came out fairly easily.My rings are on the chamber side, opposite yours.
Ah! This is exactly where my carbon rings show up. And, you can see the ring beginning to 'break up' - ie., it's not completely solid.This is an image of the ring after multiple cleanings and shows the last bit of carbon. Thanks for all the suggestions. Plan to soak for a while and use an oversize brush then a brush with patch. If needed I will use another round of Thorro Clean. I did measure where the ring is and tried to stay off the lands as much as possible. As you can see the ring is right at the lands.
When I was shooting this rifle back then I used Federal Gold Match 175. I still have the brass and when chamber checked and using a borescope I could see the brass was up to the freebore. Looks like this probably caused that carbon ring. I just was not cleaning properly then. Using a borescope has been a great tool for evaluating cleaning procedures.Ah! This is exactly where my carbon rings show up. And, you can see the ring beginning to 'break up' - ie., it's not completely solid.
I think I don't see the carbon rings show up on the chamber side because I use a chamber brush each time [I'm using an AR] and I always clean after each session.
THESE types of carbon rings are hard to get rid of.This is an image of the ring after multiple cleanings and shows the last bit of carbon. Thanks for all the suggestions. Plan to soak for a while and use an oversize brush then a brush with patch. If needed I will use another round of Thorro Clean. I did measure where the ring is and tried to stay off the lands as much as possible. As you can see the ring is right at the lands.
I wouldn't run a good knife edge over a rock. There are methods to remove carbon from a barrel that don't involve a chamber reamer.A Picture of a 5/8-24 Tap I regularly use to clean the carbon out of the threads of
muzzle breaks that build up just in front of the muzzle.
It does not seem to adversely effect the tap in any way
And yes I feel it crunch as it bulldozes through the hard carbon
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Using a Chamber reamer may not sound like a great idea with how expensive they are
However, if going slow and lightly I imagine you could feel it shave the carbon out
which would be a more finesse operation than what I do with this tap which is
Basically Bulldozing the carbon out with head on brute force
The tips of the flutes look nice and sharp still here
Lol, no I agree, just was posting my own experience with removing carbon with a HSS tool.I wouldn't run a good knife edge over a rock. There are methods to remove carbon from a barrel that don't involve a chamber reamer.
And besides, unless you have the exact reamer used to cut your chamber, you've no idea what the result will be.
I'll leave my reamers out of my cleaning regimen.
Same, I don't think any of my rifles go more than 50 rounds without being cleaned.I set barrels back on a regular bases, and what ever is in there doesn’t seem to bother the reamer at all.
But then, these are all short range Benchrest Rifles. We clean them way more than most
Back in the "real old days" no one ever heard of a "carbon ring", at least in my area. They just cleaned their rifle with a Hoppe's 9 and a bronze brush on a regular basis then used the rifles.Back in the old days the method was patches and soaking, bronze brushes, Hoppes, Sweets, GM Top Engine Cleaner, etc. When the patches would come out clean you knew the barrel was clean. Or so we thought. Affordable borescopes opened a lot eyes to reality.
I have bottles of Hoppes #9 from way back going on through nowBack in the "real old days" no one ever heard of a "carbon ring", at least in my area. They just cleaned their rifle with a Hoppe's 9 and a bronze brush on a regular basis then used the rifles.
I never heard of one either when I was in the Army back in early 70's, even when shooting on the Post Pistol Team surrounded with Army Armorers and later in civil competitive shooting.
I guess us "real old days guys" were wrong regardless of the results on target and in the field.
I thought I have heard everything but using a reamer to remove a "carbon ring" is a new one. It's good to see that one can never really contemplate everything. It does make the world an interesting place.
Good ahead and blast me, I've asked for it.![]()
jelenko said that soaking a barrel might not help. Possibly. I can't see that it could hurt to do it and you aren't wasting any time actively doing anything. It might be best to plug the barrel strategically, then fill that part of the barrel with SeaFoam, then let it work. Some people I know have said it really worked on carbon for them. After soaking, bronze bore brushing it might get it to yield. Hopefully, before that, SeaFoam can soften, loosen or remove it. Even getting it to do a little of those before brushing could be a big head start. I am a big proponent of using chemistry to do the work. A lot of times it does alot, sometimes not.l have read all the previous threads on carbon cleaning and adjusted my cleaning procedure. At this point the barrel looks really good except for one very stubborn place. There is a small ring before the freebore that I am still working on. Most of the ring has been removed but this small little dark black ring.
I have seen some differing opinions about soaking overnight.
What is the best to use for overnight soaking for that last stubborn bit? Will it really help?
Thanks