Annealing with BenchSource without case cleaning?

[MrBottleneck]

Anyone anneal the cases prior to resizing without tumbling or cleaning inside of cases first.
Just curious as I can see the point in instructions where BenchSource recommends atleast cleaning outside of cases first as to not bake carbon on but, what about the inside of the cases?
Curious has me wondering as I just received the BS today and usually dont tumbler or clean inside until absolutely needed to leave residue for smoother bullet seating.
Thanks in advance for any input

 

[joshb]

I anneal before resizing, so it's my first step. My brass doesn't get much carbon on the outside. I never read the instructions for my Benchsource. I would think the powder burning at over a thousand degrees would do more "baking" than annealing.

 

[Jet]

I never tumble my brass to clean. Prior to using my BS I would run a nylon brush inside the neck in and out once then use 0000 steel wool and remove any carbon on the neck then wipe off the steel wool residue with a paper towel. De prime and clean the primer pockets.

BS always worked great for me but Santa brought me an AMP and so far I am very happy with it. Will likely sell the BS.

Good shooting

Rich

 

[MrBottleneck]

I never tumble my brass to clean. Prior to using my BS I would run a nylon brush inside the neck in and out once then use 0000 steel wool and remove any carbon on the neck then wipe off the steel wool residue with a paper towel. De prime and clean the primer pockets.

BS always worked great for me but Santa brought me an AMP and so far I am very happy with it. Will likely sell the BS.

Good shooting

Rich

Thanks Rich. I would have loved to bought a AMP but, just upgrading from the Annealeez to the BS seemed more inline with my budget. One thing for sure is the BS is a super nicely made piece of equipment. Much higher quality then what it replaced after looking at both.
As far as the way you did it thats the way I have done them on my Annealeez (minus steel wooling). Deprime, clean PPs, run brush in and out twice then anneal.
Just wasnt sure as BS stated in instructions to clean first but, didnt specify if they meant wipe down outside clean or tumble and have inside clean as well. They only mentioned outside carbon being baked on.
Thanks for your input.

 

[ShootDots]

Anyone anneal the cases prior to resizing without tumbling or cleaning inside of cases first.
Just curious as I can see the point in instructions where BenchSource recommends atleast cleaning outside of cases first as to not bake carbon on but, what about the inside of the cases?
Curious has me wondering as I just received the BS today and usually dont tumbler or clean inside until absolutely needed to leave residue for smoother bullet seating.
Thanks in advance for any input

Here is a little trick to keep in mind. When I am at a match, as soon as I eject a fired case, I wipe the neck off with the Sinclair "Krazy Kloth". This makes pristine the case necks. BUT you need to wipe the residue off. So while the target is being pulled, I wipe the necks of my case clean. Then when I am home from the match, I anneal and IF I decide to tumble, that is when I do it>>AFTER annealing! Otherwise you will be picking media out of your primer pockets! >> NOT FUN! AND the last step to my brass prep for loading is "brushing out the necks" with a "carboned-up" neck brush, to RE-apply some carbon into the inside of the necks. This carbon is an excellent lube to aide in the smoooooth seating of the bullets..

 

[MrBottleneck]

Here is a little trick to keep in mind. When I am at a match, as soon as I eject a fired case, I wipe the neck off with the Sinclair "Krazy Kloth". This makes pristine the case necks. BUT you need to wipe the residue off. So while the target is being pulled, I wipe the necks of my case clean. Then when I am home from the match, I anneal and IF I decide to tumble, that is when I do it>>AFTER annealing! Otherwise you will be picking media out of your primer pockets! >> NOT FUN! AND the last step to my brass prep for loading is "brushing out the necks" with a "carboned-up" neck brush, to RE-apply some carbon into the inside of the necks. This carbon is an excellent lube to aide in the smoooooth seating of the bullets..

Thats kinda my question you hit upon I suppose.
If BS says to make sure you wipe cases clean on outside to avoid baking on carbon prior to annealing then wouldnt it be a bad idea to aneal with carbon in the necks thus baking it on/in turning it hard?

 

[ShootDots]

Thats kinda my question you hit upon I suppose.
If BS says to make sure you wipe cases clean on outside to avoid baking on carbon prior to annealing then wouldnt it be a bad idea to aneal with carbon in the necks thus baking it on/in turning it hard?

The carbon on the OUTSIDE of the neck is "compressed" with 60+ THOUSAND POUNDS OF FORCE against the chamber case wall. This will nearly (for lack of better terminology) impregnate the carbon into the case neck wall. Wipe it off! The carbon on the INSIDE of the case neck is "loose", at least compared to the outside, and is "mostly" burned off during annealing. This is why you need a "carboned-up" neck brush to re-apply some carbon in the neck. IF NOT, use Imperial Dry Neck Lube, applied with a Q-Tip, to do an EXCELLENT job of lubing up the inside of the case necks after firing / annealing.

 

[MrBottleneck]

Ok, now I follow what your saying and why they only mentioned the outside on the BS instructions.
Thanks for chiming in.

 

[4xforfun]

I usually anneal after every firing, and I never clean anything first.

Tod

 

[aer21]

First thing I do is after firing is anneal also. No cleaning prior for me.

 

[243BR]

+1 for annealing as first step.

 

[madmixerman]

I anneal after every firing, decap & wipe outside of neck with Krazy Kloth first.

 

[1K6BRA]

I use green Scotch-Brite pads to clean my case necks before annealing. I bought a case holder from Sinclair that I can use with my cordless drill. I turn them at a moderate speed and it cleans them up real well. Fingers get a little dirty and it takes some time but for me it is worth it.