Annealeez

[jepp2]

Have my initial setup done now i need it to get dark out so i can see how long to cycle it.

Are you planning to use Tempilaq?

 

[dickn52]

Sorry, but when it gets dark and you finally see that start of a red glow....you're already screwing your brass.

 

[Peebles24]

Was watching the annealez video they say in the dark just when it starts to turn orange its just right

 

[dickn52]

Was watching the annealez video they say in the dark just when it starts to turn orange its just right

Ok, he does annealing for a living.

 

[Peebles24]

I checked it after dark. I have no glow the flame isnt changing color. The case is in the flame the "magic" 5 seconds. I think im good if anything slightly under annealed. Which means im not ruining brass just possibly not getting the full advantage. @dickn52

 

[dickn52]

You might want to read this story/article. It's a bit long winded, but it might help us both understand the process better. http://www.6mmbr.com/annealing.html

 

[dickn52]

Quote: "If cases are heated to about 600 degrees (F) for one hour, they will be thoroughly annealed--head and body included. That is, they will be ruined. (For a temperature comparison, pure lead melts at 621.3 degrees F).

The critical time and temperature at which the grain structure reforms into something suitable for case necks is 662 degrees (F) for some 15 minutes. A higher temperature, say from 750 to 800 degrees, will do the same job in a few seconds. If brass is allowed to reach temperatures higher than this (regardless of the time), it will be made irretrievably and irrevocably too soft.

Brass will begin to glow a faint orange at about 950 degrees (F). Even if the heating is stopped at a couple of hundred degrees below this temperature, the damage has been done--it will be too soft. From this discussion we can see that there are four considerations concerning time and temperature"

 

[Peebles24]

You might want to read this story/article. It's a bit long winded, but it might help us both understand the process better. http://www.6mmbr.com/annealing.html

Thank you im reading now

 

[Peebles24]

I have actually read that article before but read it again. Im positive im not over annealing, but worrued im under annealing.

 

[muleman69]

Brass will begin to glow a faint orange at about 950 degrees (F). Even if the heating is stopped at a couple of hundred degrees below this temperature, the damage has been done--it will be too soft. From this discussion we can see that there are four considerations concerning time and temperature"

Not sure if I read this right, if it glows at 950 how could it be to soft a couple hundred degrees below this temp as that would put it at 750 which I thought was the magic number ? I probably missed something ,but thats just me...lol

 

[Peebles24]

Lol. Are you sending some 6.5 cm brass otherwise will be different yours is 6br right?

 

[Peebles24]

My Peterson brass has such a heavy annealing ring even after all the clean up and 2 firings i cant see a nice annealing ring from running it through the unit. I have been playing with 9 pieces of brass i had.

 

[rangertim]

The last brass I annealed was my 30 BR, my method must be ok, I haven't had any issues, Gun shot Great, brass sized very consistent, Bullets seated like butter. I have been doing it this way a few years. Here we go ! I turn the lights out and as the neck just starts to glow, I said just as it starts ! not glowing bright orange, just as it starts it drops out of the flame. I have used 750 Tempilaq inside the neck & 450 outside of the body from shoulder to base to make sure the heat was not migrating to far on the high side down to the case head,usually the 450 melted down just past the shoulder. After 4 bottles of the high price stuff drying out even with the thinner, I just ran with what I learned with the temp indicator and all the great YouTube videos, yes I was worried about over annealing also at first, and yes it can be dangerous ! and over done. But under annealed is just Time probably wasted ! I think high heat, with fast time,is the ticket. I use map gas, a pencil torch head and aim it right at the bottom of the neck I have one of those inexpensive cake pan $99.00 e-bay annealers !

 

[Peebles24]

The last brass I annealed was my 30 BR, my method must be ok, I haven't had any issues, Gun shot Great, brass sized very consistent, Bullets seated like butter. I have been doing it this way a few years. Here we go ! I turn the lights out and as the neck just starts to glow, I said just as it starts ! not glowing bright orange, just as it starts it drops out of the flame. I have used 750 Tempilaq inside the neck & 450 outside of the body from shoulder to base to make sure the heat was not migrating to far on the high side down to the case head,usually the 450 melted down just past the shoulder. After 4 bottles of the high price stuff drying out even with the thinner, I just ran with what I learned with the temp indicator and all the great YouTube videos, yes I was worried about over annealing also at first, and yes it can be dangerous ! and over done. But under annealed is just Time probably wasted ! I think high heat, with fast time,is the ticket. I use map gas, a pencil torch head and aim it right at the bottom of the neck I have one of those inexpensive cake pan $99.00 e-bay annealers !

That annealer looks pretty cool can you show some pics and more info.

 

[rjs1230]

That annealer looks pretty cool can you show some pics and more info.

I think they were made by skagit ballistics which are no longer in business .

 

[Peebles24]

It looks similar in idea to the annealeez, but i had never seen ot in my searches.

 

[rangertim]

I rember it came from Seattle, Tacoma or somewhere in Washington State 2 1/2 years ago. I order a cake pan and cut it down with a Jig saw for 30x47 size brass. There was a you tube video of how to make one these with parts and measurements it looked almost like mine but he modified a few things.

 

[Peebles24]

I rember it came from Seattle, Tacoma or somewhere in Washington State 2 1/2 years ago. I order a cake pan and cut it down with a Jig saw for 30x47 size brass. There was a you tube video of how to make one these with parts and measurements it looked almost like mine but he modified a few things.

It looks pretty simple and functional.

 

[Tarmacshooter]

I use 750, with just a spot inside of the neck. When it goes to black it is done. Flame needs to be aimed at the neck and shoulder ONLY.

I'm assuming you are referring to the tempilaque in the neck and not the flame?