Anchor coyotes with little hide damage

[msinc]

The pictures reminded me of some of the fox deer hunters would bring to me when I worked in the fur business in the late 70's and early 80's. Fox prices were high, north of $80 for prime fox handled properly. The route stops right after deer season hunters would bring in fox that were almost blown into two pieces after being shot by a 30-06 core lokt or similar through the shoulder. The deer hunters had heard that fox were up to $80 and assumed they would get that.

When offered $5-10 for the scrap pieces of fox some of the hunters would fly off the handle complaining how I was just trying to rip them off as I just paid $80 for that last fox and I should get the same. The best thing I could say was try selling this to XYZ whoever was the closest competitor.

It's funny how everyone seems to have their own idea about "damaged" fur...a lot of guys recommend V-Max/Ballistic Tip/Hollow Point bullets {usually in excess of 3000fps}. Then you see the coyotes with an 8" diameter hole where the bullet impact splashed the meat out......."what am I gonna do with that???" Answer: "well the rest of it's good...."

 

[johnmyers]

17 Mach IV with Kindler 30gr Gold you can’t see where bullet hit and no exit and drops them fast

 

[AckleymanII]

Mach IV with 25g berger, Hornady hp also do well, just hit them in front of the diaphram.

Someone should be making those 30g bullets again.

 

[dedogs]

Then you see the coyotes with an 8" diameter hole where the bullet impact splashed the meat out...

As with every other form of hunting... shot placement is everything. Don't shoot the point of the shoulder. dedogs

 

[Bad Mojo]

I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.
300wm 185gr at 3200, 300wsm 168gr at 3150, 270wsm 150gr at 3250.

The thing that shocks me is a 300WM with 185s going faster than a 300WSM with 168s. Is that right? I don't have either, but am interested in the WSM. I knew the WM was faster, but I thought that'd be a lot closer considering the weights you listed.

 

[284winner]

What are you using to take coyotes and not damage the hide? FMJ and there will be runoffs, how about something big and slow, 30-30, 357Max, etc. Under a light the range will be 125 yards and less. How about a 7-08 with 140 Nosler Ballistic Tip? What are you using?

Depends on range and bullet/velocity. A .223 w/40 Nosler BTs work great for zero exits on coyotes beyond 150/200 yards. Never shot one closer with that combo to know if they exit. I shot a coyote back in the 80s with my 7mm mag with a 175 factory Remington core lokt bullet at 350 yards. Funny thing was, it never exited that dog. Was walking toward me down a powerline so the shot was center chest. Never found the bullet but that has to be rare. It was a huge coyote but would think a 175 pushing 3000 fps would exit a 50 lb animal.

 

[msinc]

As with every other form of hunting... shot placement is everything. Don't shoot the point of the shoulder. dedogs

"Shot placement is everything", really???.......So.......you're saying I can shoot a coyote with a 22 caliber 50 grain Ballistic Tip at 3800 fps and as long as I don't hit the "point of shoulder" it's not gonna to look like he was 98% cut in half????? Yeah, okay!!! Good tip, thanks.

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

"Shot placement is everything", really???.......So.......you're saying I can shoot a coyote with a 22 caliber 50 grain Ballistic Tip at 3800 fps and as long as I don't hit the "point of shoulder" it's not gonna to look like he was 98% cut in half????? Yeah, okay!!! Good tip, thanks.

I just shot this one a couple of hours ago with a 40gr Ballistic Tip that left the muzzle at 4100fps and impacted 122 yards later at about 3600fps. It left a .224 caliber entrance hole in the chest just inside the right shoulder blade, breaking the right leg before homogenizing the vitals. No exit. I've never had a 40gr NBT exit a coyote in a frontal chest shot, and at least half the time they don't exit on a broadside shot. Keep them off big bones and the pelt damage is minimal.

 

[Knifeman]

20 Vartarg. 40 gr Berger’s. No exit. Anchoring out to 300 yards.

 

[dedogs]

50 grain

Who said anything about a 50grn bullet. I said 40grn. 25% lighter bullet and much more frangible. YMMV. dedogs

 

[Barlow]

The 87gr Vmax out of my 6 Dasher sporter does little hide damage. The 105 Amax in same rifle does lots of hide damage. Barlow

 

[17VLD]

http://coyotestuff.com/

17 Mach IV with Kindler 30gr Gold you can’t see where bullet hit and no exit and drops them fast

I’ve had good luck with my 17 Javelina and the 27 Kindler Gold too.
The 30 Gold in the 17 Predator works very nicely too,look up DAAs video of 17 with a 17 some time
Matt

 

[jmkasza]

Shot this little yote while deer hunting last week. About 50 yards with a 165gr SST from my 308. Surprisingly little hide damage, but it was just behind the shoulder in and out.

 

[spencerhenry]

I switched to 17-223 a couple years ago, I now have well over 50 coyotes with it, and have not lost one. I have had to fire a second shot on a couple if I didn't put the first one exactly where it need to go. But, I still have never had one that I shot, get away.
However, I did miss one last weekend at 300 yards, just after I dropped one at 340.

 

[sscoyote]

I think the very best bullet I used out of several 17's was the 30 gr. Hammett. Don't think they make 'em anymore though.

When I was using the 22-250 AI with 40's though although there were only occasional exit wounds, they were still very difficult to skin due to internal "liquification".

 

[swd]

I've never had an exit with a 17 Rem with 25 Hornady Hollow points or 25 V Max's. For inside of 200 yards my favorite is a 22 Hornet with a 50gr V Max. Never had one exit and the WHOP it makes when it hits is most impressive.

 

[Lone Hunter]

I just shot this one a couple of hours ago with a 40gr Ballistic Tip that left the muzzle at 4100fps and impacted 122 yards later at about 3600fps. It left a .224 caliber entrance hole in the chest just inside the right shoulder blade, breaking the right leg before homogenizing the vitals. No exit. I've never had a 40gr NBT exit a coyote in a frontal chest shot, and at least half the time they don't exit on a broadside shot. Keep them off big bones and the pelt damage is minimal.

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Looks like it's still scratching fleas too. LOL. Hopefully I'll make some shed some fleas this year. Good Shooting ..

 

[JFW]

I personally use a 6.5 grendel with underwood ammo using 110 gr. Lehigh controlled chaos bullet. Have killed 25 plus at 125 and down had 1with exit wound. Have not lost any to run off after being hit. Ammo was designed for animal control in populated conditions so as not to have pass through. My .02, good luck