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Ammo how is it graded by the makers?

When you read the specs of most makers match stuff they are all the same. So what is the difference in production between different grades of match grade from a given manufacturer?
Do they set up and run El Supremo then Match, then Practice then Plinker? If so what is the difference between the process?
Or do they run so many lots of the same recipe, Test and assign grade?
Anybody know for sure?
Joe
 
That may well be true for certain series from a given manufacturer. Eley Tenex and Match are thought to be the same, but Match didn't make the Tenex grade. But Tenex/Match are clearly different in appearance than Eley Target. Different lube, different bullet. So they're from different manufacturing processes.
 
The specs should be very much the same since .22LR match ammo is made to meet the same CIP ammo specs.

The .22LR match ammo makers don't reveal to the public how match ammo is graded. As a result much of what follows is speculation.

A single production run of match ammo produces a quantity of product which is subdivided into lots. In the case of Lapua all grades of standard rifle ammo result from a production run -- X-Act, Midas +, and Center X. A production run is made by a single loading machine and Lapua, for example, has three or four loading machines (perhaps a fifth by now). No two loading machine produce identically numbered lots.

Lots are identified by a number of factors including certain changes or adjustments to the loading machine, perhaps also by changes in key technical machine operators.

Since all the components of the product are themselves graded -- the brass casings, the bullets, the powder (propellant), and the priming compound -- this grading is very likely serving the purpose of allowing the loading of the best components together, that is using the best graded brass with the best graded bullets (and propellant and priming compound, however that is determined). It makes sense that the grading of components has a role in determining lots.

It seems reasonable that with many decades of match ammo production experience behind them, the match ammo makers have a good expectation of what their production runs ought to be producing. In other words, it seems likely that they know what they will be getting when the production. Perhaps they do some testing along the way to confirm that things are as they should be.

To be sure, things don't always work out as they should. Human involvement and countless moving parts don't always make things as they should be. This may be why sometimes some X-Act is outperformed by some Midas and some CX.

The alternative, of course, is that each day, with each production run, the ammo makers look at the product -- perhaps dozens of cases, tens of thousands of rounds -- and say "We don't know what we've made. Hopefully it's good. Let's start shooting to test this stuff to find out. If it's really good it's X-Act, if it's very good it's Midas, or if it's just good it's Center X. Let's get started, we have another production run this afternoon."

This alternative, that testing by shooting alone determines the grade assigned to a lot, doesn't explain how sometimes a lot that is graded as top tier like X-Act can perform more poorly than Center X.

This is an especially important problem, especially since the factory testing barrels don't magically turn a poorly performing lot of X-Act (or CX) into a good one. Good ammo shoots well in good barrels.
 
Good ammo shoots well in good barrels.
Generally agree except for the above. It is generally accepted that in smallbore you chase the ammo with the gun. Three superbly accurate shooting barrels will normally not all shoot the same lot or brand well.
So is it tested absolute group size or some other set of parameters that separate the brand tier levels?
 
Three superbly accurate shooting barrels will normally not all shoot the same lot or brand well.
This assumption may hold when shooting small sample sizes. For example, if three rifles shoot 25 or 50 rounds of the same lot of .22LR match ammo they might produce different results, with one rifle shooting better than the others. This might lead some shooters to agree with your assertion that barrels don't usually shoot the same ammo similarly.

In a test whether different good rifles will shoot a larger sample size of the same lot of match ammo similarly, a sample size of at least 300 rounds was used shooting ten shot groups at 100 yards.

The chart below is with a 2024-produced lot of Center X. All targets were shot in May and June this year.
The group sizes are the averages of ten ten-shot groups. Results with other lots show similar results.

 
I read an article on 10x written maybe 10 years ago. Eley wanted to make it better an found in the production of 10x they needed to control over 100 separate operations to make the best. To me that is astounding and how they do it all would be amazing. Some of those steps meant they modified their machinery. Also the machines that run 10x are also run slower!

David
 
Generally agree except for the above. It is generally accepted that in smallbore you chase the ammo with the gun. Three superbly accurate shooting barrels will normally not all shoot the same lot or brand well.
So is it tested absolute group size or some other set of parameters that separate the brand tier levels?
A good shooting lot will be consistent across many different barrels. this does not mean it will shoot the same size groups but will be consistent on how well each of those rifle's barrels can shoot.
This test result for one of my rifles the lot was chosen based on the consistency of 0.50mm difference also if you look both groups have shots that are centered those were 4-5 shots each and were at the end of the groups shot. normally I seen this at the beginning of a group being shot not at the end. based off this consistency was why I selected this lot and there were lots that shot smaller but not as consistent.
small group size is a good basis, but consistency is where scores will be better.

Lee
 

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