Age and Covid-19

[SGK]

Looking forward to hearing about you helping out at the coal face with those in hospital with COVID. Doctors need all the invincible help they can get.

 

[Laurie]

In Italy it has come down to the number of breathing machines available. If you are over 60 you typically don't get one, they are saved for those that are more likely to survive, younger folks. Our country is also grossly short on breathing machines.

It's reported in our (UK) Media that triage has been in force for some time in Lombardy (the worst affected Italian region) hospitals as intensive care facilities / ventilator machine supply have been overwhelmed. In such triage, Italian doctors now admit that many elderly victims aren't being given the treatment that could save them.

 

[Mulligan]

It's reported in our (UK) Media that triage has been in force for some time in Lombardy (the worst affected Italian region) hospitals as intensive care facilities / ventilator machine supply have been overwhelmed. In such triage, Italian doctors now admit that many elderly victims aren't being given the treatment that could save them.

Damn

CW

 

[SGK]

Yup. For a couple of weeks now.

And a good number of doctors in Italy are dying.

The expected mortality rates in Dr Neil Ferguson's research, posted in other threads here, are specifically noted to be pre the impact of an overwhelmed healthcare system. Run out of IC beds, ventilators and doctors and the numbers rocket.

 

[JEFFPPC]

Yes those of us in our 70's are high risk........as we are in pretty much every other illness. I wonder what the mortality rate is in our age group as related to smokers vs non smokers. I wonder why we don't hear any statistics on that.

 

[Mulligan]

Yes those of us in our 70's are high risk........as we are in pretty much every other illness. I wonder what the mortality rate is in our age group as related to smokers vs non smokers. I wonder why we don't hear any statistics on that.

I would bet an active non-smoking 70 year old would be far ahead of a sedentary smoking 50 year old.
CW

 

[Laurie]

I wonder what the mortality rate is in our age group as related to smokers vs non smokers. I wonder why we don't hear any statistics on that.

That's been commented on quite a bit re Italy as the smoker percentage is allegedly high in that country compared to the western average. Also, the worst affected region, Lombardy is Italy's manufacturing / heavy industry centre and sees relatively high air pollution. Both factors also apply to Wuhan province in China.

 

[JEFFPPC]

I would bet an active non-smoking 70 year old would be far ahead of a sedentary smoking 50 year old.
CW

Exactly what I am counting on!

 

[dolek]

I would bet an active non-smoking 70 year old would be far ahead of a sedentary smoking 50 year old.
CW

Hard to tell if they both die.