Action advice

[TrxR]

Im Canadian so i am looking for stuff that is easily available here.

 

[bozo699]

Support the American action makers

I agree 100%

Im thinking about it. I was looking at some different actions. Anyone ever use a Pierce action? It doesnt seem to be extremely pricey, or should I I try for a Barnard S or Barnard P ? Also I noticed the Barnard P listed somewhere with or without ejector. What difference would a person notice?

Thanks

TrxR,
I have never shot f/TR but I am quite sure you want an ejector, the short range one hole guru's run without the ejector and I have a Stiller Diamond Back that doesn't have an ejector but I found in 1K bench rest trying to get 10 record rounds off in 30 seconds or less is impossible without an ejector, I haven't heard anything bad from either of those action makers and the second maker I have heard many good things but I have no personal experience with either,..sorry.
Wayne.
P.s just saw your last post, by all means support your country if those actions are made there buy one, I have heard good things about the Barnard actions.

 

[TrxR]

neither the barnard or the pierce is made here but there are dealers that carry them .

 

[TrxR]

Also if I was to look at BAT actions which model would you suggest for a single shot right bolt right port .308

thanks

 

[bozo699]

neither the barnard or the pierce is made here but there are dealers that carry them .

Well there you go how much are they American $ if I can ask?
Wayne.

woops you posted again,..O gosh you would have to ask that, I would have to do some research, Bat is the worst because they have a lottttttt!!! of actions to choose from.

 

[TrxR]

The pierce run around 935 US for a Short action single shot and are american made

http://www.pierceengineeringltd.com/category/actions/product/pierce-action

The Barnard S is 1300 Canadian and the Barnard P with trigger is around 1550 Canadian and are made in NZ

 

[bozo699]

The pierce run around 935 US for a Short action single shot and are american made

http://www.pierceengineeringltd.com/category/actions/product/pierce-action

The Barnard S is 1300 Canadian and the Barnard P with trigger is around 1550 Canadian and are made in NZ

WOW!!! I think I would go for the Pierce then $1300 is way up there, I noticed today that Bat has came up quite a bit from last year so I ordered two actions from Stiller, I have used there actions before and there top notch as well, as a matter of a fact the best two shooters I know run Stiller actions but the Viper aluminum action has been on back order for about three years now Grrrr!! seriously if it isn't in the budget do what you have to do to compete I have a old get I shoot with that kicks my ass all the time with a Remington Dasher it isn't just the action that makes a winner but if you can afford a used rifle set up how you want it may have a lot of rounds through it but replace the barrel and you will be set, there are a lot of you Canadians on this Forum and you might find a used one, if not and you can piece one together with top of the line used parts you can find on here, I bought a really nice and still shooting lights out 6ppc on here in a Edge stock, Jewel 2 ox. trigger and a 1:13.5 Kriger barrel and a three lug Bat for $1800 delivered, I had fun with it, then replaced the barrel with a 1:8 Krieger and chambered it in 6BRX and won with it last year in out 11lb. class, won a really nice 12X42 NF BR scope, almost worth as much as the rifle so don't get into a hurry and keep your eyes peeled best of luck to you my friend.
Wayne.

 

[Terry]

Looking at putting together my first .308 for F/TR and was originally thinking about using a stevens 200 action, but a older Rem 700 action came up for sale for 400 Canadian and am wondering if it might be a better starting point? What do you all think? What are the pros and cons of each?


Thanks

All of my stock Savages shoot 1/2 MOA or better. Changing barrels, triggers, cartridges are all easy with the Savage/Stevens. The floating bolt head on the Stevens is an advantage. By floating there is less risk of misalignment. Timing and truing will help both.

Neither is a Batt.

Terry

 

[bozo699]

Looking at putting together my first .308 for F/TR and was originally thinking about using a stevens 200 action, but a older Rem 700 action came up for sale for 400 Canadian and am wondering if it might be a better starting point? What do you all think? What are the pros and cons of each?


Thanks

All of my stock Savages shoot 1/2 MOA or better. Changing barrels, triggers, cartridges are all easy with the Savage/Stevens. The floating bolt head on the Stevens is an advantage. By floating there is less risk of misalignment. Timing and truing will help both.

Neither is a Batt.

Terry

Terry,
I agree with you, the floating head on the savage makes up for any misalignment that might be in the action and is key to there success, I have several Savages and they shoot amazingly well, there stocks SUCK!!! except for I think it is the LRPV has a HS precision stock that is nice, I have one of those and bought a used one off this forum and put it on my Savage F- class when I want to go Varminting with it. There triggers really suck and there machining of barrel threads suck but the floating bolt head makes up for it so all in all I agree out of the box Savage does pretty weiil and you can be up and running as far as just the rifle is concerned for about $1200 or so.
What exactly do you mean Neither is a Batt?
Wayne.

 

[butchlambert]

Wayne,
Bozo699, Did you mean to say they had no ejector? How could they pull a case without an extractor? John Pierce makes an excellent recveiver. I am on a list for one of his Titanium receivers.

 

[bozo699]

Wayne,
Bozo699, Did you mean to say they had no ejector? How could they pull a case without an extractor? John Pierce makes an excellent recveiver. I am on a list for one of his Titanium receivers.

Butch,
OMG!!! I didn't just say extractor instead of ejector once, but 4 times!!! Sorry Butch and especially sorry to TrxR he is trying to learn and I can't even use the proper terminology ??? Haven't talked to you in a long time Butch how have you been? how is your business doing? and most importantly how are you shooting? hopefully your running an extractor in your equipment, I have a hard time running my cleaning rod down the tube after each shot LOL
Wayne.

Tom if I could get Jerry to ever finish a Viper action I wouldn't know either,..some of us don't have the cool actions you have LOL.

 

[butchlambert]

Wayne,
I am doing well, thanks. I don't shoot enough to do very well. My business is doing very well. I certainly hope you are doing fine also.

 

[bozo699]

Wayne,
I am doing well, thanks. I don't shoot enough to do very well. My business is doing very well. I certainly hope you are doing fine also.

Yes sir I am doing great! I am glad everything is good in your world also I also went back and fixed my terminology on the extractor/ejector issue
Wayne

 

[TrxR]

Im seriously considering a Pierce now. It look to me like a slightly beefed up and refined Remington action. I just got to find out the Current Canadian cost. But from the looks of the US price its only going to be a couple of hundred less than a Barnard S.

Thanks

 

[BigDMT]

what's an ejector?

Tom

Boy you haven't been spoiled by drop port actions have you? LOL!

 

[bozo699]

what's an ejector?

Tom

Boy you haven't been spoiled by drop port actions have you? LOL!

Yea some peoples kids?????
Wayne.

 

[bozo699]

Alex,
I see the new Titanium action is 42% lighter then there steel receivers I don't see any clearance specs on there site though and last I checked the Bat action were the tightest out there. I would like to check out this new Titanium for a long range pack around hunting rifle .
Wayne.

 

[bozo699]

I have no idea either on the clearance thing either I just was saying what I read where the Bat was the tightest, I would love to have a Pierce Action in my line up.
Wayne.