Dusty Stevens
Shiner
BR still hasnt arrived yet, but theyre still trying.Good information is Good information no matter how old it is, here I am 13 years later finding the information I needed between 6BR vs 6PPC.
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BR still hasnt arrived yet, but theyre still trying.Good information is Good information no matter how old it is, here I am 13 years later finding the information I needed between 6BR vs 6PPC.
Thanks guys.
I thought it was all about the journey.BR still hasnt arrived yet, but theyre still trying.
It is, I'm still on that very journey... trying to get tiny groups at 300yds with a 6BR. 12 twist shooting light weights.I thought it was all about the journey.
But which record? Theres quite a few and thats one, on one dayI think the 30 is the king at short range now right, 99.9 shoot PPC's and 1 shoots a 30 and holds the record... jim
Smallest group ever shot that was not beaten by a PPC for a long time-out it fell to a 30.... jimBut which record? Theres quite a few and thats one, on one day
Did he win the match that day? Aggs win matchesSmallest group ever shot that was not beaten by a PPC for a long time-out it fell to a 30.... jim
That is not the point he has the smallest group ever shot and it was a 30 not a PPC. ..... now you you go beat it ....jimDid he win the match that day? Aggs win matches
Yes sir, on a given condition even the mighty PPC's don't agg...... LOL jimLast summer, the Landsend Benchrest Club in Western Colorado had a club shoot....... a dozen or so shooters got together during the covid issues just to have fun and exercise their trigger finger.
The 200 yard agg was won by a dasher. Yes it was windy, yes it was a small group of shooters. On that day..... a fast twist dasher with heavy bullets won the yardage.
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Yes, but he still got the world record....... the old one stood for over 50 years..... jimThe shooter that holds the World Record for the smallest group ever shot in Registered Competition came in last in the Agg.
At the distances outlined by the OP back in 2008, I’d run a PPC for group. It would also work great for UBR score. If IBS score is the game, it has to be a 30BR since the PPC is at a disadvantage. The OP also indicated he’d like to stretch it out to 600 yards. At that point neither of the above are going to be good choices, so a 6mm of some sort in a fast twist shooting heavies would get the nod.It was resuscitated so there is interest. So do you have any good input for the good of the group.
Jimmy, I just don't get the logic that a 6BR is good enough for UBR when it's shooting against PPC's, but one must shoot a PPC in group...against PPC's. Why is score the red headed step child when it's arguably harder than group, particularly UBR, where a PPC is not at a scoring disadvantage to a 30 cal bullet hole. If someone beats a strong field of PPC's shooting something else, in score, why is that held to a different standard than beating a field full of PPC's in group? I just honestly don't get it.At the distances outlined by the OP back in 2008, I’d run a PPC for group. It would also work great for UBR score. If IBS score is the game, it has to be a 30BR since the PPC is at a disadvantage. The OP also indicated he’d like to stretch it out to 600 yards. At that point neither of the above are going to be good choices, so a 6mm of some sort in a fast twist shooting heavies would get the nod.
If I was on a budget and only had one gun, I’d make sure the gun came in at 10.5 pounds and switch barrel the platform so I could shoot the above listed calibers and disciplines and adapt as required based on the yardage being shot. Not ideal, but certainly doable.
Mike. I made no mention of a 6BR, so not sure what you are getting at with me.Jimmy, I just don't get the logic that a 6BR is good enough for UBR when it's shooting against PPC's, but one must shoot a PPC in group...against PPC's. Why is score the red headed step child when it's arguably harder than group, particularly UBR, where a PPC is not at a scoring disadvantage to a 30 cal bullet hole. If someone beats a strong field of PPC's shooting something else, in score, why is that held to a different standard than beating a field full of PPC's in group? I just honestly don't get it.
Jimmy, I just don't get the logic that a 6BR is good enough for UBR when it's shooting against PPC's, but one must shoot a PPC in group...against PPC's. Why is score the red headed step child when it's arguably harder than group, particularly UBR, where a PPC is not at a scoring disadvantage to a 30 cal bullet hole. If someone beats a strong field of PPC's shooting something else, in score, why is that held to a different standard than beating a field full of PPC's in group? I just honestly don't get it.
I agree with you except the only place 10.5 would apply would be IBS, If he is not looking to IBS I would advise a 13.5 lb rifle. If he is only interested in club shoots most are ok to at least 17 lbs that I have attended. One gun do all to 600yd an 8 twist 6 br would be the easiest place to start and be competitive I believe.At the distances outlined by the OP back in 2008, I’d run a PPC for group. It would also work great for UBR score. If IBS score is the game, it has to be a 30BR since the PPC is at a disadvantage. The OP also indicated he’d like to stretch it out to 600 yards. At that point neither of the above are going to be good choices, so a 6mm of some sort in a fast twist shooting heavies would get the nod.
If I was on a budget and only had one gun, I’d make sure the gun came in at 10.5 pounds and switch barrel the platform so I could shoot the above listed calibers and disciplines and adapt as required based on the yardage being shot. Not ideal, but certainly doable.