6mm rem.why isn't it

[Catfur]

Caveats: Use Winchester brass, NOT Remington. I've always used Winchester!

After the war on Pandora, the raw material for Winchester brass, Unobtanium, has been in short supply.

 

[Changeling]

Caveats: Use Winchester brass, NOT Remington. I've always used Winchester!

After the war on Pandora, the raw material for Winchester brass, Unobtanium, has been in short supply.

That is why I posted (MY) change to Lapua brass. Another poster reply was that Winchester made a yearly offering of the Brass, though I have never seen that offering.
Bottom line, if one wants the best, Lapua brass as stated would not exactly be construed as a third choice! Think about it!

 

[ShootDots]

ShootDots,what twist were you running in you 6mm to shoot the heavier bullets.Mine is a 9 twist and it will not shoot anything over 75 gr.I have not shot any of the vld bullets because of the mag length.
I would take it down and build another,but my wife bought it for me in 1981. Guess I will keep it like it is and shoot the 75gr hp in it.Thank you.
jim

I had an 8 twist Dan Lilja barrel at the time. I forgot to add, that barrel was on my A.I...

 

[akajiggs]

I did use the word obsolete in my first post,but by no means did I mean that it was obsolete.I meant that hardly anyone talks about it anymore.
I am glad to see that there is a lot of people that has some too.
I think before I load anymore up I'll just try the 7x57 route and see what happens.I will also try some of the bullets that were listed up above.Can't do anything but get better.Hornady is coming out with 6mm brass around the first of June and might try some.What is your take on hornady brass?
Thanks for the input guys.
Jim

 

[Roeder]

ShootDots,what twist were you running in you 6mm to shoot the heavier bullets.Mine is a 9 twist and it will not shoot anything over 75 gr.I have not shot any of the vld bullets because of the mag length.
I would take it down and build another,but my wife bought it for me in 1981. Guess I will keep it like it is and shoot the 75gr hp in it.Thank you.
jim

A 9" twist should shoot anything up to 105's. You have other issues.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that you re-check your twist. The behavior you describe, not shooting anything over 75 grains sounds suspiciously like what a 12 twist might do. If it really is a 9 twist then you do have other issues.

 

[shortgrass]

When I passed the ammo case at Walmart today there were 3 boxes of Remington on the shelf. 100g soft points. Not obsolete if it can still be had at Wally World. Now, keep your eyes open for that elusive .220 Swift, .250-3000, .358 Win. .300 Sav. and few others. Those are obsolete, even though there are thousands of rifles chambered in those calibers still in use. Time will tell if ammo and brass will ever be as readily available as it was. My 6mm is a .244 Ackley Improved (thats what it says on my reamer!) with a 1 in 7 twist Hart #4 contour fitted to a VZ 24. A "heavy" bullet rifle....

 

[CJ6]

ShootDots,what twist were you running in you 6mm to shoot the heavier bullets.Mine is a 9 twist and it will not shoot anything over 75 gr.I have not shot any of the vld bullets because of the mag length.
I would take it down and build another,but my wife bought it for me in 1981. Guess I will keep it like it is and shoot the 75gr hp in it.Thank you.
jim

A 9" twist should shoot anything up to 105's. You have other issues.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that you re-check your twist. The behavior you describe, not shooting anything over 75 grains sounds suspiciously like what a 12 twist might do. If it really is a 9 twist then you do have other issues.

And if a 12 twist will not stabilize 85-88gr bullets you have issues.

 

[redrockranger]

All the Remingtons labeled 244 Remington 12 twist ????

 

[CatShooter]

All the Remingtons labeled 244 Remington 12 twist ????

98% are.

 

[madderg]

What I was talking about being over-bore still seems important to people that can't afford a new barrel every 800-1200 rounds, and the 6 Rem can not give that...and still be accurate.

 

[CatShooter]

What I was talking about being over-bore still seems important to people that can't afford a new barrel every 800-1200 rounds, and the 6 Rem can not give that...and still be accurate.

Nonsense....

 

[Raythemanroe]

I haven't run the 6mm R, I have been that .243 win guy that used an 8 twist. I always looked @ the 6MMR and thought it would be a good cartridge for the 115's and a fast twist long barreled project.. Never come to tuition, I lean more to building a 6SLR over the Rem.. Realistically, The Dasher will be my next build..


Ray

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I did use the word obsolete in my first post,but by no means did I mean that it was obsolete.I meant that hardly anyone talks about it anymore.
I am glad to see that there is a lot of people that has some too.
I think before I load anymore up I'll just try the 7x57 route and see what happens.I will also try some of the bullets that were listed up above.Can't do anything but get better.Hornady is coming out with 6mm brass around the first of June and might try some.What is your take on hornady brass?
Thanks for the input guys.
Jim

The 6mm Remington in a well built rifle with a good barrel and trigger is so accurate that I don't think it will matter what kind of brass you use. Hornady is good brass though.

I use Federal brass in my 6mm Remington (Not Ackley Imp). It puts a hole in a hole in a hole at 100 yards with 75gr SierraHP Varminter bullets. Though Winchester is probably my favorite brass when Lapua is not available. Remington brass can make very accurate loads as well, just tends to need a good bit more prepping than brands like Winchester and Hornady.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

What I was talking about being over-bore still seems important to people that can't afford a new barrel every 800-1200 rounds, and the 6 Rem can not give that...and still be accurate.

Nonsense....

+1 CatShooter

It all depends in how fast you run the bullets. If you're a MAX speed freak, sure it will burn barrels. If you find a nice fast speed without pushing the limits, 6mm Rem barrels will last a good while. The 6mm Rem is a very inherently accurate round. It just happens to be a fast 6mm as well. Doesn't mean you have to push it.

 

[sean68]

Well, this has been a really interesting thread. ShootDots has fairly evaluated the round and brought to light the difference between the 243 and 6mm Rem in case capacities! I bet this started causing "Squeals" of "NO" from the 243 guys as they rushed to verify the statement, LOL.

I have used the "6mm AI" for a long time and found it to be one of the most accurate/effective 6mm rounds available in the high velocity realm of FAST and ACCURATE cartridge designs.
It's just one of those cartridges that works, pure and simple!! I don't think that anyone will ever know why exactly!

Caveats: Use Winchester brass, NOT Remington. I've always used Winchester!

For my next barrel I will be using Lapua (7 MM Mauser) necked down, set up as "No Turn".

Where are you getting Lapua 7mm Mauser brass?

 

[CJ6]

What I was talking about being over-bore still seems important to people that can't afford a new barrel every 800-1200 rounds, and the 6 Rem can not give that...and still be accurate.

Nonsense....

I have a 100% original 722 in 244 12 twist with WAY more than that through it and it still shoots solid 5/8" in a sporter barrel

 

[shortgrass]

When I passed the ammo case at Walmart today there were 3 boxes of Remington on the shelf. 100g soft points. Not obsolete if it can still be had at Wally World. Now, keep your eyes open for that elusive .220 Swift, .250-3000, .358 Win. .300 Sav. and few others. Those are obsolete, even though there are thousands of rifles chambered in those calibers still in use. Time will tell if ammo and brass will ever be as readily available as it was. My 6mm is a .244 Ackley Improved (thats what it says on my reamer!) with a 1 in 7 twist Hart #4 contour fitted to a VZ 24. A "heavy" bullet rifle....

^^^^^ I had this one Melonite/Blk. Nitride treated. Figured it'd be a good candidate for that, and it has!

 

[sbhooper]

I have a 6mm that I bought in 1974 for my dad to shoot coyotes on the ranch. He never used the rifle and gave it back to me in the mid 80s. I have shot well over 100 deer with it and it is still a 1/2-minute shooter. I have no idea how many hand-loads that I have run through it.

I currently load 100-grain Hornady Interlocks to right at 3000 fps, so I am not pushing it to max loads. If this 22-inch barrel ever quits on me, I will put a 24-inch barrel on it.

 

[Raythemanroe]

Deer hunting, 800 rnds is a lot.



Ray

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I have an all original Ruger M77 tang safety 6mm Rem with the heavy varmint barrel built in 1968. Its in pristine condition, but only the Lord knows how many rounds have been shot through it. I bought it in about 4 years ago and have put over a couple hundred rounds through it myself. With my hand loads it is a true 1/4 MOA rifle. Bullet holes overlap in groups at 100 yards every time.