6mm for deer and target suggestions

[Clancy]

The "cause factor" is paper ballistics rather than real world hunting situations. These paper ballistics generates theorical discussions centered around control conditions which rarely if ever happens in real world hunting situations.

Also, long range shooting has become very popular. This is fine for target shooting but when extrapolated to hunting situations, it exceeds the capabilities of most hunters under field conditions. That's not to say there isn't highly skilled marksmen capable of making successful long range hunting shots on game but in my experience, it is certainly not the norm.

Most hunters would benefit by selecting any capable caliber with enough energy for the game animal they are hunting and employing structured practice at the range to simulate real world hunting situations. This mean getting off the bench, shooting at various distances in the manner in which one will take shots in the field.

I rarely, if ever, see shooters at the range practicing to simulate field conditions.

I am at the range 3-4 days a week. I generally shoot 15 “record” shots per trip. You never see me practicing field conditions there, because I practice not far from there at a large ranch. So, just because you don’t see it, doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

Although 9.5 out of 10 people I know have no business shooting a deer beyond 100 yards, I’m not here to sort them out.

Im just here to say that it can be done with XYZ cartridge. I can’t make a guy prepare himself.

 

[Dgd6mm]

Kevin, who will be chambering the barrel for you?
I like my 6br and will have another that I already have 500 pieces of brass for. I shoot 6mm Competition Match (2) of them, a .243 also. My 6br is 30.3 grains of IMR4895. Both my 6CM and. 243 run close to 49 grains of H1000. However I do like the 6XC but have no experience with it. I believe the 6br will handle your needs but I also understand the interest in trying a different cartridge.
I'm waiting patiently to read of your choice.

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

6XC

Yup,. It's a GOOD One,. IMO ! AND,...
If, Hornady would Have Paid, David Tubb, a tiny "Royalty" there would Be,.. NO,.. 6 Creedmoor.
The 6 XC uses, 3 -4 grains, Less Powder,.. has, a Tiny Bit Shorter "Body" and gets about, 150 FPS Less Vel than, the Max Velocity produced by, the 6 Creed.
The 6 XC Has, a Longer Neck,. Plus, MUCH Better,.. Barrel Life than, the 6 creed.
Life's,.. a "Trade Off",.. HIGH Velocity = Buying MORE,. Barrels
IF, Not going "Whole Hog", w/ an expensive BR, Rifle, a Criterion "Nut" RemAge type Barrel, Gets it,.. DONE !

 

[Dgd6mm]

Back in 2005 when Joe Hendricks came out with the 6mm Competition Match it was also shortened to those of us calling it the 6CM, I started shooting it in early 2007 way before the Creedmoor came out. Joe designed it for his need for XTC shooting. I've had 4 of them. Barrel life and accuracy is outstanding. I usually run my PRS rifle at 3150 with a 115 DTAC. I have one for br and f class shooting that run faster. But I started shooting a 6br about 5 years ago and really like it. Tubb's 6XC I believe is an excellent cartridge with good components available.

 

[Kevin1990]

Myself, I like the 40 degree shoulder angle of my Dasher, = hardly ever trim brass
105 gr bullet traveling 2900 fps with very little powder consumption and plenty of punch down range, heck I have a friend that hunts black bear with his Dasher.

Go figure..

Nice! What length barrel you working with?

Edit: also what brass are you using? Wondering if Lapua is worth the effort to hydroform as opposed to going with alpha or Peterson 6 dasher.

 

[True Grit]

I'd have a 6CM built, buy some Hornady 6CM 108 match ammo and go kill stuff. FYI, the 108 Hornady match bullet is one of the best 6mm bullets for killing deer.

 

[pavementends]

I think you pretty much decide on the velocity you want and how much powder you want to burn. The 6BR and clones are all great and the 6GT helps with feeding and gains a bit of powder capacity and has the advantage of factory loads if that matters to you. Pretty much a win.

 

[Clancy]

@True Grit thats interesting. It must be a different jacket than the 6.5 and 7mm versions. They’re a complete liability.

 

[True Grit]

@True Grit thats interesting. It must be a different jacket than the 6.5 and 7mm versions. They’re a complete liability.

At what range and velocity? I've had blow up and penetration problems with the Eld-x but none with the Eld-Match. Even had some complete pass throughs. At 6.5 CM velocities I've never had a Eld-m not pass through.

 

[Clancy]

At what range and velocity? I've had blow up and penetration problems with the Eld-x but none with the Eld-Match. Even had some complete pass throughs. At 6.5 CM velocities I've never had a Eld-m not pass through.

0-250, Creedmoor and PRC. Everything gets videod so it’s easy to look back at the footage and see the impacts.

I guess the 6mm works fine if you say it does, but I’m shooting all Berger and custom now anyway, so won’t ever get to test it out.

My criteria is probably different than most. I won’t use a bullet that exits, and want everything dead in its tracks. So “pass through” isn’t on my list, but I can see the relationship between passing through say a whitetail giving confidence on a larger, thicker skinned animal.

 

[CJ6]

I like bonded bullets but I've been trying the Sierra 100gr TGKs and they're really pretty good. Both on game and targets.