6mm for deer and target suggestions

[K22]

When I read these threads, I wonder how we ever got away from Pauly’s first Centerfire in…. What was it? 1808?

The "cause factor" is paper ballistics rather than real world hunting situations. These paper ballistics generates theorical discussions centered around control conditions which rarely if ever happens in real world hunting situations.

Also, long range shooting has become very popular. This is fine for target shooting but when extrapolated to hunting situations, it exceeds the capabilities of most hunters under field conditions. That's not to say there isn't highly skilled marksmen capable of making successful long range hunting shots on game but in my experience, it is certainly not the norm.

Most hunters would benefit by selecting any capable caliber with enough energy for the game animal they are hunting and employing structured practice at the range to simulate real world hunting situations. This mean getting off the bench, shooting at various distances in the manner in which one will take shots in the field.

I rarely, if ever, see shooters at the range practicing to simulate field conditions.

 

[Webster]

So I'd like to have a barrel chambered before deer season, and then after ill probably shoot paper and steel with it also. I'm pretty set on a 6mm. Id like the easy button for reloading as far as finding a good load and keeping it tuned. I was thinking 6br, but I wanted a little more juice, as I may possibly have shots at 350-375 yards (absolute max.) I was thinking along the lines of a 6xc, or a 6BRDX. Any other suggestions? I have a lot of cci450s Id like to use and 6br lapua brass, but if something will do the job better ill get set up for that, plus who wouldn't want another cartridge in the stable?

Thanks fellas.

Lapua 6Br cases are hard to find. A 6BRDX only holds about 2 gr more powder than a std. 6BR. I think I would look at a Creedmore for more power. They are known to be accurate. Looks like the BRDX has a lot of case dimension changes by FF. Don't know of it's a simple FF.

 

[Kevin1990]

Lapua 6Br cases are hard to find. A 6BRDX only holds about 2 gr more powder than a std. 6BR. I think I would look at a Creedmore for more power. They are known to be accurate. Looks like the BRDX has a lot of case dimension changes by FF. Don't know of it's a simple FF.

6br cases are in deed, but, I have enough to the point where I'm considering something just for the sake of using the brass haha. I'm having trouble finding plentiful information and load data on the 6BRDX, it looks like a great round though.

 

[Clancy]

The "cause factor" is paper ballistics rather than real world hunting situations. These paper ballistics generates theorical discussions centered around control conditions which rarely if ever happens in real world hunting situations.

Also, long range shooting has become very popular. This is fine for target shooting but when extrapolated to hunting situations, it exceeds the capabilities of most hunters under field conditions. That's not to say there isn't highly skilled marksmen capable of making successful long range hunting shots on game but in my experience, it is certainly not the norm.

Most hunters would benefit by selecting any capable caliber with enough energy for the game animal they are hunting and employing structured practice at the range to simulate real world hunting situations. This mean getting off the bench, shooting at various distances in the manner in which one will take shots in the field.

I rarely, if ever, see shooters at the range practicing to simulate field conditions.

I am at the range 3-4 days a week. I generally shoot 15 “record” shots per trip. You never see me practicing field conditions there, because I practice not far from there at a large ranch. So, just because you don’t see it, doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

Although 9.5 out of 10 people I know have no business shooting a deer beyond 100 yards, I’m not here to sort them out.

Im just here to say that it can be done with XYZ cartridge. I can’t make a guy prepare himself.

 

[Dgd6mm]

Kevin, who will be chambering the barrel for you?
I like my 6br and will have another that I already have 500 pieces of brass for. I shoot 6mm Competition Match (2) of them, a .243 also. My 6br is 30.3 grains of IMR4895. Both my 6CM and. 243 run close to 49 grains of H1000. However I do like the 6XC but have no experience with it. I believe the 6br will handle your needs but I also understand the interest in trying a different cartridge.
I'm waiting patiently to read of your choice.

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

6XC

Yup,. It's a GOOD One,. IMO ! AND,...
If, Hornady would Have Paid, David Tubb, a tiny "Royalty" there would Be,.. NO,.. 6 Creedmoor.
The 6 XC uses, 3 -4 grains, Less Powder,.. has, a Tiny Bit Shorter "Body" and gets about, 150 FPS Less Vel than, the Max Velocity produced by, the 6 Creed.
The 6 XC Has, a Longer Neck,. Plus, MUCH Better,.. Barrel Life than, the 6 creed.
Life's,.. a "Trade Off",.. HIGH Velocity = Buying MORE,. Barrels
IF, Not going "Whole Hog", w/ an expensive BR, Rifle, a Criterion "Nut" RemAge type Barrel, Gets it,.. DONE !

 

[Dgd6mm]

Back in 2005 when Joe Hendricks came out with the 6mm Competition Match it was also shortened to those of us calling it the 6CM, I started shooting it in early 2007 way before the Creedmoor came out. Joe designed it for his need for XTC shooting. I've had 4 of them. Barrel life and accuracy is outstanding. I usually run my PRS rifle at 3150 with a 115 DTAC. I have one for br and f class shooting that run faster. But I started shooting a 6br about 5 years ago and really like it. Tubb's 6XC I believe is an excellent cartridge with good components available.

 

[Kevin1990]

Myself, I like the 40 degree shoulder angle of my Dasher, = hardly ever trim brass
105 gr bullet traveling 2900 fps with very little powder consumption and plenty of punch down range, heck I have a friend that hunts black bear with his Dasher.

Go figure..

Nice! What length barrel you working with?

Edit: also what brass are you using? Wondering if Lapua is worth the effort to hydroform as opposed to going with alpha or Peterson 6 dasher.

 

[JFrank]

Nice! What length barrel you working with?

Edit: also what brass are you using? Wondering if Lapua is worth the effort to hydroform as opposed to going with alpha or Peterson 6 dasher.

If you already have Lapua, just load them with 30 gr of Varget.
I didn’t have but a few left so I bought Alpha Dasher brass and saved barrel life.
I run a 24” Lilja 4 groove 1-8 twist on my Tikka