I don't see that as much of an argument. Shooting a Savage with the floating bolt heads in a short action I have a bolt head to fit the 223, ARC/Grendel, and the 308 family.
The OP asked for thoughts. I would love to
I am competing in a league against a whole group of people shooting BR, BRA, Dasher. They are all shooting 100gr class bullets. Mostly between 103gr to 110gr bullets which is the same as what I am using. After speaking to all of them my 105gr ARC is firing at the same velocities that they are loading to..
So? What's the difference between rebarrel or buying a whole complete separate rifle in a different caliber?
About $800 to rebarrel, $4k for a new Eliseo.
What velocity's are you getting in the arc case?
Using LVR @ 28.8gr with the 105 Hybrid and getting 2770fps on avg.. Have loads up to 29.4gr and was getting 2830. I haven't loaded above that level. Though Hornady bolt data sets max at 30.8gr..
After all this, that is a pretty open ended question. Pro's, Con's? General feeling/observations?
I concur
Not much difference between a PPC/ARC and a 6 Grendel. Without good brass, ya got nothing. The Lapua Grendel brass is excellent, equal to 220R brass mostly used to form PPC. There's a reason to do a 6 Grendel...It sure is easy to neck down, load and shoot. As someone who might have more experience with a 6 Grendel than possibly anyone, shooting it in a bolt action BR rifle, I can say that it will compete with anything I've ever shot. No fire forming and a tad more capacity for slower lots of powders is reason enough to me. That tad bit of capacity difference is negligible with lighter bullets but becomes more critical with the heavies. Same as how a 280AI can run right with a 7Mag with lighter bullets, but not with heavies. No replacement for displacement. Lol!
See, that's the beauty of rifles. You don't need to "See the Allure" nor are you required to build and shoot one in a bolt rifle. I and others enjoy ours and we are all that matter. The ones that actually do own and shoot them.
You are correct if you're doing a bolt gun might as well do somthing bigger. Thought about making a 300m rifle with it, but doesn't make sense.
I agree with you. I think the basis comes from the PRS type crowd who is taking something like the 6GT with even more capacity than a Dasher and down loading it to 6BR speeds or even lower to reduce recoil and being able to watch their own trace. I have ran Dashers up in the 3070-3080 range in 600/1K BR. It was hot but with the right set up, totally doable. 6BRA are able to run the 3000+ node. 6BR can run 2900. These speeds are probably with 28-30" barrels and not 24-26". Sometimes people just don't know what they don't know yet.
You said a mouthful with your last sentence.
So you are telling us that a cartridge such as a 6CM or 308 is needed to shoot paper targets at 300yds! Sorry but I don't see the need to burn up that much powder to punch holes.
No I'm not saying that. The reason I chose to not do a 6ARC for a 300m International rifle is balletically its not much different if at all from my .223 palma rifle. Only difference being bullets are more expensive so I didn't go with it.
I did. Also because of it and moving from a 223 Savage 12 with a 26' barrel I have also just shot back-to-back two weeks in a row the best scores I have ever posting in 4 years of league.
What is your barrel length and what the is the bullet/velocity your getting. Maybe you'll convince me to do one.
