6 Dasher hunting gun.

[Cuando]

I’ve got a few Dashers with 22” bbl’s. I run 108 eld’s at 2,845 in one and 2,915 in the Kimber Montana.

If doing the Montana again, I’d go 6x47 if staying w 6mm.

It’ll be a .22 Creed next though.

 

[Drop Port]

Build that dasher and don't look back. I use a straight 6br with 105 class bullet to kill deer on permit and often have to push it out to 500. It is very effective. Depending where I am and what distance and where i need them down I also use a 6.5x47 and 300WSM.
An 85 SGK will also make quick work of deer. Its on the light side but can be driver faster and works well.

 

[Beeman]

Sounds like everyone thinks I’ll get 2800 fps or more out of a 22” barrel. That’s good news. Gun will be a Remington SA blueprinted with PTG bolt, M16 extractor, Benchmark 4.5 contour 7 twist heavy spiral fluted, trigger tech, manners EH1 CF. All parts were ordered long ago when I was going to build a 6 and 7SST. To hard to source parts here in Canada so plans have changed. What’s the best brass to use? Lapua or Norma?

 

[Lannister]

If you are contemplating on the 6mm Dasher, I think you should also take a closer look at the 6mm x 47 Lapua. I find the 6 Dasher is more costly to build, their performance is equal. Last I checked the 6mm Dasher dies from Redding is $270/set, not to mention you still have to fire form the BR brass to make in to a Dasher.
6mmx47 Lapua is necked down from the 6.5 X47 Lapua, makes neck and shoulder dimension is identical to the 6BR, only the body is .289 longer, die set are available from Forster for $67/set. The case dimension and capacity are similar between both calibers, both share the same small primer pocket/flash hole and tough brass made by Lapua.
I’m still in the load development stage of my 6mm x47 Lapua, but it’s looking very promising, I was able to push 70g B-tip with 38g of IMR 4064 @3500 and deadly accurate. If you are interested, I can send you more information and gun smithing etc.

Cheers

 

[Beeman]

I will look into the 6x47. I really like both of my 6.5x47’s. I thought the 6x47 has more case capacity than a dasher. With the Norma brass out I also thought fire forming wasn’t necessary. Still need to see if my gunsmith has a 6 Dasher reamer for the Norma brass.

 

[muleystalker]

Go the dasher with norma brass and appropriate reamer, you wont be sorry. The dasher is no more costly to build and operate than the 6x47L. Dies are the same price and no fire forming with the Norma Dasher brass. You can get a semi custom Harrels full length bushing die, fit to 3 3x fired cases from your rifle, for 67.00 and a forester micrometer seating die for 70.00. I'm thinking about doing one just like you but to shoot monolithic bullets for my Ca. deer hunting gun, looking at the Hammer bullets. Keep us posted on your progress.

 

[RussellJ]

Been searching on here and haven’t quite found the answer I’m looking for. I’m strictly a hunter and dont shoot competitions. I’m thinking about building a 22-24” barrel 6 Dasher. With a 100-105 class bullet can I expect to get close to or reach 3000 fps? Or is this being to optimistic? I would like a low recoil 500 yd whitetail gun. Or should I just build a 6 Creed or 6x47? Already have two 6.5x47’s.

Don't over look the Berger 95grn Hunting VLD bullets in a hunting Dasher setup. I have a 6mm Dasher rifle assembled with a short freebore(.055"), 23" X-Caliber ramage barrel, B&C stock and with a CDI box magazine. It feeds 87grn and heavier bullets very well. I'm shooting the 95grn Berger Hunting VLD bullets just under 3000fps with RL15 powder and getting single digit SD's.

 

[Beeman]

Go the dasher with norma brass and appropriate reamer, you wont be sorry. The dasher is no more costly to build and operate than the 6x47L. Dies are the same price and no fire forming with the Norma Dasher brass. You can get a semi custom Harrels full length bushing die, fit to 3 3x fired cases from your rifle, for 67.00 and a forester micrometer seating die for 70.00. I'm thinking about doing one just like you but to shoot monolithic bullets for my Ca. deer hunting gun, looking at the Hammer bullets. Keep us posted on your progress.

Hammer bullets have peaked my interest as well. I think the 101 gr Hammer Hunter would be a good bullet in the 6 Dasher. But again I can't get them in Canada!! So frustrating as I only live 15 miles off the ND border. I may import some this summer in 6.5,6mm and 7mm. IF not I think I will try the 105 Berger and the 103 ELD-X.

 

[WindSurgeon]

That sounds like a lot of work for a hunting rifle. You don't need 3000 fps for deer or antelope. I do not have one hunting rifle that runs more than 2900 fps. My .243 with 100 grain soft points runs about 2880 and has killed many pronghorn and deer. Only need deer-of-angle accuracy and decent stalking skills.

 

[Beeman]

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That sounds like a lot of work for a hunting rifle. You don't need 3000 fps for deer or antelope. I do not have one hunting rifle that runs more than 2900 fps. My .243 with 100 grain soft points runs about 2880 and has killed many pronghorn and deer. Only need deer-of-angle accuracy and decent stalking skills.

I realize this is a lot of work and I could make things a lot easier. But what fun would that be? For me it’s all about collecting the parts and having something other guys don’t shoot. We will say I’ve got the custom gun addiction. I don’t own any over the counter guns anymore. Not that they wouldn’t work for me, but I’ve gone a different direction.

 

[6BRAckley]

If your experience is anything like mine you will love your dasher hunting rifle. It is appealing to burn less powder and have less recoil and muzzle blast. I built mine with a 23 or 24 inch barrel (forgot and rifle is not close by) and it shoots between 2875 and 2925 with 105 and 108 bergers. It has been very effective out to 440 yards on deer and antelope. One antelope ran a few yards before dying...the rest of the animals were DRT with a single bullet. Friends who have recently used dashers to harvest deer quickly remark “I want one too”... the performance combined with limited recoil is appealing to most.

The only change I would make if building it again is to go with a no-neck turn 6 BRA...easier to make good brass and gives up little to nothing in performance.

 

[WindSurgeon]

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I realize this is a lot of work and I could make things a lot easier. But what fun would that be? For me it’s all about collecting the parts and having something other guys don’t shoot. We will say I’ve got the custom gun addiction. I don’t own any over the counter guns anymore. Not that they wouldn’t work for me, but I’ve gone a different direction.

I totally get it. I'm the same way.

 

[Evan]

Just to throw a wild card in, have you thought about a 6 Grendel or a 6 Grinch? A little different from what everyone else has, a little less powder, great brass available without shortages, and close performance.

Edit: Bolt face is the big change.

 

[Beeman]

I did look into the Grendel a little. A dasher is about the least velocity I’d want for a hunting gun. Another problem I’m having now that I’m not doing the SST is what to do with my 7mm barrel. This is going to be a switch barrel gun. Looking into if a 284 Win throated properly will work in a SA with 150-160 gr bullets. Fun and games!

 

[4xforfun]

1st choice....6-47L

(Close) 2nd choice....Dasher...either the Norma or FFing 6BR Lapua brass. My FF load was one of the most accurate combo's I have ever shot. I LOVED FFing new brass. I did 900 of them for various bbls I own.

Tod

 

[timeout]

Do the Dasher. 105 Berger HVLD'S, Reloader 15, 23" Krieger barrel, 2977 with no pressure signs. Very accurate and a pleasure to shoot. Owned 243's all my life, so not knocking them. I like the Dashers better. Since you're starting fresh, go with the Norma brass for no fireforming. I use modified "KwikClips" magazines. They feed perfect. Buy a FL sizer die from Harrell's. l love the Dasher.

 

[Beeman]

Just picked up 100 pieces of 6 Dasher Norma brass. Another question I have is what’s the best powder to run in a Dasher? I have Varget but that’s all I have that would be suitable for the dasher. What’s the most temp stable powder that produces top velocity?

 

[timeout]

Just picked up 100 pieces of 6 Dasher Norma brass. Another question I have is what’s the best powder to run in a Dasher? I have Varget but that’s all I have that would be suitable for the dasher. What’s the most temp stable powder that produces top velocity?

I have used Varget, but prefer Reloader 15. I would suggest that you try both.

 

[Beeman]

Is RL15 temp stable? I’m in Canada so I shoot in huge temp swings. From plus 70-90 to -30. But I will try both to see what my rifle likes.

 

[timeout]

Is RL15 temp stable? I’m in Canada so I shoot in huge temp swings. From plus 70-90 to -30. But I will try both to see what my rifle likes.

I'm shooting a fairly stiff load behind Berger 105's, but during the rifle deer season only (cooler temps). I haven't tested that load during July and August temperatures. I have shot lesser loads punching paper in several different temperature ranges without problems. My advice is test, test, test. Better safe than sorry. From the Alliant website, but remember they are advertising and selling.
http://www.alliantpowder.com/products/powder/reloder15.aspx