6.5x284 DieOff?

[ebb]

What kind of velocity can you get with a 6.5 284 shooting the 162s.

 

[Steveb]

32" barrel. 2870 fps using my Labradar. ES under 10 for 5 shots.

 

[284winner]

Only match shooting. I made the 160's for hunting with a more open mephat but I tightened up the mephat on the 162's so I don't have to point. My feedback on the 160's was they worked extremely well on antelope, elk and deer at long range. When I first tried making the 162's I wanted a weight that was different to keep them apart so I went with 162 because I used a slightly longer jacket.

How's accuracy on the 160s you made ? Also are they still offered ?

 

[Steveb]

I never tested them against the 162's. I received a lot of feedback about them though. However, the 146's, 152's and 162's I made for match shooting were all tack drivers so I don't see that there would be any difference. I don't know if the new owners are shipping them.

 

[jmatters]

Wish I could find a 6.5 bullet that does better in wind than my 284 bullets. Definitely less recoil not that the 284 is a problem but noticably less for sure. Just haven't had as good of luck in wind at the 1000+ yards with any 6.5 bullets. There good but not quite what the heavier 284s are moving around the same velocities. I haven't really shot alot of the heaviest 6.5s yet. The 147 is the heaviest I've run with it. I have some 150 SMKs and 156 Berger's but I'm not throated for them yet. One day I'll get around to it.

Did you try the BIB 135?

 

[284winner]

Did you try the BIB 135?

No I haven't. I've tried most bullets up to the 147 elds and none have conquered wind better than the 284 bullets have at 1000+ yards.

 

[jackieschmidt]

One of the weird paradoxes in the cartridge war game is the 284 Winchester was developed to give Shooters a option for a high performance 7mm that could be used in a short action with a standard bolt face diameter.

Not many cared.

Then the 6.5mm craze hit, and it became the go to long range high BC bullet of choice. The 284 case became the logical choice.

So, Lapua stared making excellent 6.5x284 cases.

But then, bullet makers started making some great 7mm bullets, with even greater BC numbers.

So what is everybody doing? Buying 6.5/284 and necking it up to 7mm, in fact making a 284 Winchester.

It makes one wonder why Lapua just doesn’t make 284 cases.

Probably for the same reason the refuse to make a 30BR, or a 6PPC.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

One of the weird paradoxes in the cartridge war game is the 284 Winchester was developed to give Shooters a option for a high performance 7mm that could be used in a short action with a standard bolt face diameter.

Not many cared.

Then the 6.5mm craze hit, and it became the go to long range high BC bullet of choice. The 284 case became the logical choice.

So, Lapua stared making excellent 6.5x284 cases.

But then, bullet makers started making some great 7mm bullets, with even greater BC numbers.

So what is everybody doing? Buying 6.5/284 and necking it up to 7mm, in fact making a 284 Winchester.

It makes one wonder why Lapua just doesn’t make 284 cases.

Probably for the same reason the refuse to make a 30BR, or a 6PPC.

I think that if they made a labeled 284 case it would have to be according to saami drawings which may not be the same as the 6.5x284 necked up that everybodys reamer is made for- but i havent looked at the drawings

 

[sandwarrior]

The big problem with 6.5-284 is simple. It's overbore for competition. It eats barrels faster than smaller cases that can get nearly as good of velocity.

That is why it's diminishing in the competition world. Yes, we know, barrels are a commodity. The problem is getting yourself all sorted out each time changing or setting back a barrel in under 1k rounds. You can get through a season without having to do anything to a 6.5 Creed or .260 Rem. You have to change or set back a 6.5-284 run at high pressure levels. Which most competitors do.

As to hunting and informal shoots it's still there. A guy competing in 1k milk jug shoots with his buddies isn't going to shoot a barrel out that quickly. It provides a lot of punch for hunting. And, you almost certainly aren't ever going to shoot that barrel out doing that.

 

[BrianR5112]

Since the heyday of 6.5-284 popularity a few new powders have come out that help the barrel burning aspect of the cartridge. Ive been using VV165 and will (as soon as I can find some) try HV1000. VV165 is a cooler burning powder than H1000 that the 6mm guys claim makes them shoot forever and HV100 is cooler yet.

I have developed some great loads for my 6.5x284 using H100V. Very pleased with the accuracy, and no noticeable throat erosion after 400+ rounds.

 

[SBS]

I have developed some great loads for my 6.5x284 using H100V. Very pleased with the accuracy, and no noticeable throat erosion after 400+ rounds.

How about some info. on bullet used, velocity and group sizes?

 

[BrianR5112]

Hornady ELD-X 143 gr bullet, Lapua case, Federal GM210M Primer, Hodgen H100V 49.3 gr, 2910 fps, group size .562” with 26” barrel (hunting load)

Accubond LR 142 gr bullet, Lapua case, Federal GM210M primer, Hodgen H100V 49.5 gr, 2980 fps, group size .627” with 26” barrel (hunting load)

Lapua Senar 139 gr bullet, Lapua case, Federal GM210M primer, Hodgen H100V 47.5 gr, .489” group @2930 fps, 30” barrel. (target load)

 

[BrianR5112]

I just picked up some 6.5mm Berger EOL Elite Hunter 156 gr. Searching for load data. Once if get a load figured out, I’ll share. If anyone has a load, I’m intereste.

 

[6MMsteve]

I loaded up some 142smk's yesterday with 54grs n165 .010 off lands, br2 primers, shot a .392 group then a .564 group, not bad for ol shaky,flinch master, but the 165 seems to shoot well