I think I should have put in more detail of what I think a DRT shot is all about...LOL. Head shots, neck shots, even high shoulder shots don't count when it comes to DRT shots that are placed in the lungs, liver, and even further back. I was involved with some kids deer hunt where they were all shooting 243 rifles with factory ammo... and they were dropping deer when shots were 100 yds or less... and the shot placements were randomly placed. So I shot a nice buck a week later with my 243, expecting the same results with a typical lung shot at 80 yds... but it ran 90 yds before piling up and without any blood. That started my to thinking more about high speeds... light bullets... creating MORE shock... for more DRT kills for randomly place shots.