Ackman
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Take your 308 and give it a try. A terrible choice, but you'll never find out until you actually try it.
308 For P Dogs?
- Thread starter Totosdad
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Take those and leave the .308 at home. In addition to the above rifles I would take your long johns, a snow shovel, tow strap and possibly a set of tire chains. We had 18 BELOW ZERO last Monday and 10 inches of snow. It's a little late in the year to count on having a good dog shoot.
First shoot was cold and windy snow ice Oklahoma panhandle. Mirage over snow! Then it got windy.
Looks like you are taking plenty of hardware. Each will show its capability in your hands.
Enjoy the hunt!
Looks like you are taking plenty of hardware. Each will show its capability in your hands.
Enjoy the hunt!
An excerpt from my grandfather’s diary. . .
"My father owned a(n 1886 Winchester) 45/90 rifle and during the noon hour he would see how many ground dogs he could hit as they sat up by their hole. When he hit one it would turn them wrong side out and all you could find were small pieces. Sometimes I would pack water from the spring and force them out of their hole then hit them with a club; they could not run as they were too soaked."
A 308 would certainly be a step up from an old black powder 45-90. Probably two steps up from a club!
"My father owned a(n 1886 Winchester) 45/90 rifle and during the noon hour he would see how many ground dogs he could hit as they sat up by their hole. When he hit one it would turn them wrong side out and all you could find were small pieces. Sometimes I would pack water from the spring and force them out of their hole then hit them with a club; they could not run as they were too soaked."
A 308 would certainly be a step up from an old black powder 45-90. Probably two steps up from a club!
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I'd leave the 308 at home. Too loud, too much kick (can't see impact), too much barrel heat. Wrong tool for the job.
Something in the 204 Ruger, 223, 22-250, 243 range. And maybe throw a 17hmr in for shots under 150 yards....just for extra fun.
Something in the 204 Ruger, 223, 22-250, 243 range. And maybe throw a 17hmr in for shots under 150 yards....just for extra fun.
searcher
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With a known backstop or lack of need for one - I'd take it and have some fun shooting it with those 110's. If you don't have a brake on the gun - buy a Witt Machine clamp-on brake for the trip so you can see your impacts with that .30. The big rule of varmint shooting is you need to see where your impact was to adjust your fire. The alternative is having a pal spot you. That gets old fast when everyone wants to shoot. I have shot at squirrels with my M1-A, my 7 Mag, .257 Roberts, etc. My main battery on a big trip, though, would be .20 Practical, .22 Nosler, 6BR, .223, .17 HMR and a .22 pistol for the close encounters. Have fun!
rmr
Gold $$ Contributor
Take it.
i still have a "parts gun" that i built up for just general use. the core of it is a R700 with a 13.5 twist Krieger/95palma chamber. shooting Lapua brass, and 110vmax, it is a) accurate as hell b) destructive on PD's. (an understatement) PD's vanish from sight.
that's actually the only real downside. its hard to tell when you hit them, because the impact signature is roughly the same: a large cloud of dust. the only difference is that some dust clouds have body parts, and others do not. solid body hits rarely leave much of anything to examine. its a 100-300y affair. the BC on a 110vmax is too low to shoot much further. tons of fun tho!
i still have a "parts gun" that i built up for just general use. the core of it is a R700 with a 13.5 twist Krieger/95palma chamber. shooting Lapua brass, and 110vmax, it is a) accurate as hell b) destructive on PD's. (an understatement) PD's vanish from sight.
that's actually the only real downside. its hard to tell when you hit them, because the impact signature is roughly the same: a large cloud of dust. the only difference is that some dust clouds have body parts, and others do not. solid body hits rarely leave much of anything to examine. its a 100-300y affair. the BC on a 110vmax is too low to shoot much further. tons of fun tho!
DogBuster
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308......nah
as mentioned in a field weight rifle....too much noise/heat/recoil
You'll never see your hits/misses.....you won't have fun
Stick with smaller calibers....something 20 caliber...
Or the basic 222/223........6BR with Nosler BT's or Horny V max
Plastic tipped bullets hit the dog or ground and break up faster.....
No richochet into the next county
as mentioned in a field weight rifle....too much noise/heat/recoil
You'll never see your hits/misses.....you won't have fun
Stick with smaller calibers....something 20 caliber...
Or the basic 222/223........6BR with Nosler BT's or Horny V max
Plastic tipped bullets hit the dog or ground and break up faster.....
No richochet into the next county
Don't forget the 130gr Speer HP. Its what used to use for PD in my '06, when I was a lot younger. MIght shoot 60-80 rounds in a day. Didn't have to see the hit, I could hear it and sometimes , see the results in the air.
Take the 308, but I would also take at least a 223 and a 22 lr or mag or 17hmr at least.
Take the 308, but I would also take at least a 223 and a 22 lr or mag or 17hmr at least.
Shooting Prairie Rats takes a low recoil and accurate rifle. The 30 Caliber hunting rifle is not a varmeter.
Kevin Taylor
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I shoot a 257 Roberts on P’Dogs. No problem.
Hey, didn't read all replies prior. I did bring a .308 loaded w 110g Vmax to shoot PD's. Shooting suppressed, Just for fun, really. The 110 passed thru those PD's. Not much of a show. Did absolutely wreak havoc on yotes out that way. As I recall, the 110's were barely seated in the case and shot very well.
Decades ago my buddy took his Savage 110 Tactical .30-06 out prairie dogging, his handloads would group around 1" at 200 yards. It was his coyote rifle , but he did take some p-dogs with it.
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JSH
Gold $$ Contributor
For sure not a primary caliber. With all the thumbs down on the idea I may well dig out my F/TR rifle and fling a few down range next year for the heck of it.
Then again I have been around when some cannons were put into service on prairie dogs. Ruger #1 416 Remington, when a mound loaded up with adults and pups is hit correctly I have seen 3-4 in the air at the same time coming out of full recoil,lol. Five rounds was enough of that for me, then pass it to the next guy.
Then again I have been around when some cannons were put into service on prairie dogs. Ruger #1 416 Remington, when a mound loaded up with adults and pups is hit correctly I have seen 3-4 in the air at the same time coming out of full recoil,lol. Five rounds was enough of that for me, then pass it to the next guy.
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