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308 factory ammo.... Any cheap ammo shoot 1 moa ?

You can look on ammoseek.com. Here is a link to a search for 175 gr .308 ammo:

http://ammoseek.com/ammo/308-winchester/-rifle-175grains-

At $0.70-$0.75 per round, Privi Partisan appears to be the only load even close to your desired price per round. If it shoots well in your rifle, there you have it. There appear to be a few places selling Federal Gold Medal Match for under $1.00 per round Althoug higher than your price point, that's a pretty good bargain. I've shot FGMM 175s out to 1000 yd on quite a few occasions out of a 30" barreled F-TR rifle (~2750 fps) that seems to particularly like it. I've posted some reasonable scores with it as long as the wind conditions were modest. However, when the wind came up, the results were not very satisfactory. The 175 SMK is not the greatest bullet for shooting 1000 yd. Yes, the 175 SMK will absolutely get to 1000 yd stably from a 24"-26" barreled rifle (unlike the 168 SMK, which may well arrive at the target sideways), but there are much better choices if you're willing to drop some more coin or learn to reload. As you seem set on doing neither of those things, my suggestion would simply be to try a few of the various 175 SMK loads as close to your price range as you can find and see if any of them perform up to your expectation. If you can find some in your price range, the Hornady 178 A-Max and/or 178 Match BTHP loads might also be worth trying out. Given your requirements, there aren't too many other choices. You can buy one box of a few different types without breaking the bank and see if any will work.
 
Yep. It looks like u have to pay to play the game. Ha ha ha. Thanks for all the good Info. Those federal 168 gr at a $1.00 a round is a good buy. I remember they use to be 29.99 all day long. They would make a good 850 yard bullet for sure , maybe 900 yards. Now that every one is shooting the 175 gr bullet the 168 gr have really come down in price. Martyd
 
I reload for my 10FP 308, 22in barrel. However, a few times this summer, I've fired HSM 168gr SMK match bullets out to 1000yds. They chrono at 2765fps. My friends chuckled when I broke them out for a day of shooting. They weren't laughing later in the day. This stuff is sub MOA at 100yds. It's really a 850yd bullet, but it will make it to 1000yd steel targets. At 750ft elevation, they're still moving at 1100fps. My point is, if you don't want to reload, there's stuff out there that will shoot.
 
I haven't priced it lately, but years ago when I shot a lot of factory ammo, I always had good success (MOA or better) with factory ammo shooting Nosler Ballistic Tips. Still, concerns over BCs and muzzle velocities would lead me to recommend this stuff out to 600 yards, but I would be in doubt about what might happen at 1000. I doubt you'll win at 600 yards, but your experience will likely be good enough that your skills will grow and your wind reading skills will improve.

An awful lot is harder at 1000 yards so that it is unrealistic to make plans for 1000 yards before you have some 600 yard experience under your belt. I could probably coach just about anyone with a serviceable hunting rifle in .308 into shooting matches at 600 yards with factory ammo. 1000 yards is a much, much different deal.

I've seen folks shoot 600 yard F-Class with slow twist .223s, Triple Deuces, and lots of flavors of hunting rifles. Even considered shooting it with a Rem 700 ADL and a Rem 760 Pump .308. 1000 yard F-Class (and similar) is better approached with more care and specialized equipment. Odds are you'll need a special base (20 MOA), and most shooters prefer a long barrel (30" is popular), careful hand loads slightly exceeding SAAMI length and/or pressure specs, and high BC bullets.
 
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I will add my 2 cents worth of advice and give you a 2 cent discount. First your idea of a Ruger Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor is not too bad. It is very light and the stock is flexable but you can add weight and stiffness or switch to a better stock. I own one and 1MOA accuracy is doable. Also a 308 with at least a 24" barrel is doable. Finding a 223 with enough barrel length and the proper twist for 1K is probably not possible. As others have advised, start at a shorter range say 600 yds. Then if you feel comfortable stretch it out to longer range. By then you should have improved your wind reading skills and have a realistic idea of what 1000 yd shooting is going to take. You will need to have a 20 MOA scope rail for that distance but they are available. There are factory loaded rounds that will work at 1000 yds. Hornady 140 gr Amax factory and the 175 gr match factory will work in a 308. You will not find these products on every shelf and they are not cheep. If you purchase over the internet when they are discounted at decent volume you can lower your cost a little, however. If you can find a shooter who wants to purchase your once fired brass you can recover some of your purchase price. If you have a shooting buddy who is a reloader you may be able to have him reload your cases with quality components, and tweak your loads for maximum accuracy. You buying the components, helping with some of the scut work in reloading, a 6 pack or some $ may be all it takes. I had a friend who ran 223 amo thru his AR-15 as often as he could afford it. On day at work he mentioned he had a bunch of Winchester White Box brass he wanted to give me. I offered to reload it for him if he bought the powder, primers, bullets and helped. We went to Sportsman's Warehouse got 100 Winchester small rifle primers, a pound of TAC, and 100 62 gr bullets. He brought me five 20 r0und boxes of fired brass. I put them in the tumbler, full length resized them, cleaned the lube off and showed him how to run an old Lee Auto Prime. He returned the primed brass to me, and I loaded it on my Lee Turret loader with the TAC and 62 gr bullets, put the rounds back in their boxes, labeled them and returned them to him. Long story short he liked the deal, they shot better than factory and he bought more components and we did the deal for about 6 months until he put together his own reloading bench at his house. Oh he also bought me a nice Christmas gift, a bottle of Old Bushmills Black.
 
NDAR15MAN said:
I am look at a brand of ammo that is $10.00 to $15.00 for a box of l20 rounds (60 cents a round )
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Don't overlook remanufactured stuff.

I've used plenty of reman'd Black Hills and Ultramax stuff over the years in 223 with fine results.

Here is a place that has a lot of choices in 308 Win loaded with A-Max and HPBT (155's, 168's and 175's).

Most are under 75 cents per round, which meets your $15/box budget.

FMJ stuff is available for about 50 cents.

https://www.freedommunitions.com/ammunition/rifle/308-winchester.html
 
IMI/Sampson 308 has done pretty good in several rifles I've tried it in and the brass ain't to shabby either.
 
Once again thanks for all the good info. I bought a savage fv cabelas 223 2 months ago and it is being duracoated and put a weaver 36T scope on it. I should be getting it back from duracoater in 2 weeks. I have not shot it yet. Going to use some 69 gr factory ammo and get use to using the moa turrets. I have a lot to learn in long range shooting with turning turrets and reading the wind. I done a lot of coyote hunting but not much success longer then 350 yards. That's a long shot here in IL and WI and Iowa . Not so much when I lived in North Dakota. Then my plan is to buy a savage cabelas 10T in the 6.5 Creedmoor and put a sightron 10-50x60 scope on it this winter with my company bonus check. Ha ha ha. Then I am set for 600 yards to 1200 yards. I have a tikka 3 in a 243 cal that shoots 1 moa all day with factory 100 gr ammo. I have about 500 Factory rounds of ammo. Enough to last me a few years. Not really sure if it makes sense to buy the 6.5 Creedmoor with a nice shooting 243. I think I could get the 243 dialed in good to 750 yards. Marty
 
I have found the FGMM and Black Hills match to be nearly indistinguishable in my rifles. One brand I have not tried yet but plan to is the Creedmoor sports brand. They use top quaility components like Lapua and sierra, so the theory is you get handloaded quality from the factory. If I"m not mistaken, it runs in the same price range as the other match ammo. I was looking at picking up a box of 50 for $55
 
Commercial ammo is commercial ammo, for the most part. If you find a brand that shoots well in your rifle, you're GTG. If it also happens to be economical, so much the better. In general, you will find that a significant portion of the commercial ammo preps suffer from very large velocity swings (high ES/SD), which renders them much less useful for long range shooting. But frankly, LR shooting performance isn't really the goal for the companies that make commercial ammo. If it shoots reasonably well out to 500-600 yd in a wide variety of different rifles, it will sell. I would suggest watching Palmetto State Armory's website. Periodically, they have sales on FGMM 168 and/or 175 loads with very good prices. When they do, stock up.

One other thing to consider is ammo from Applied Ballistics Munitions (now owned by Berger). I shot their 175 Tactical .308 load in competition for a couple years and did very well with it. They have now added a 185 Juggernaut .308 load to the list. This ammo is produced to much higher tolerances than typical factory "match" ammo; it's really well-made. The downside is that it's pretty pricey. However, if any of their loads shoot well out of your rifle, you have the option of using that ammo whenever something really "important" comes up, and shooting the less expensive stuff the rest of the time.

http://www.buyabmammo.com/308-win.html
 
gstaylorg said:
Commercial ammo is commercial ammo, for the most part. If you find a brand that shoots well in your rifle, you're GTG. If it also happens to be economical, so much the better. In general, you will find that a significant portion of the commercial ammo preps suffer from very large velocity swings (high ES/SD), which renders them much less useful for long range shooting. But frankly, LR shooting performance isn't really the goal for the companies that make commercial ammo. If it shoots reasonably well out to 500-600 yd in a wide variety of different rifles, it will sell. I would suggest watching Palmetto State Armory's website. Periodically, they have sales on FGMM 168 and/or 175 loads with very good prices. When they do, stock up.

One other thing to consider is ammo from Applied Ballistics Munitions (now owned by Berger). I shot their 175 Tactical .308 load in competition for a couple years and did very well with it. They have now added a 185 Juggernaut .308 load to the list. This ammo is produced to much higher tolerances than typical factory "match" ammo; it's really well-made. The downside is that it's pretty pricey. However, if any of their loads shoot well out of your rifle, you have the option of using that ammo whenever something really "important" comes up, and shooting the less expensive stuff the rest of the time.

http://www.buyabmammo.com/308-win.html
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Thanks for the update.
 
Thanks again for info. Wow if a guy can buy 6.5 Creedmoor factory for $55.00 for. 50 rounds that is good deal. Give us a report on how bit is shooting. I might put a post on forum on a review of this ammo. Thanks. Martyd
 
NDAR15MAN said:
Thanks again for info. Wow if a guy can buy 6.5 Creedmoor factory for $55.00 for. 50 rounds that is good deal. Give us a report on how bit is shooting. I might put a post on forum on a review of this ammo. Thanks. Martyd
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sorry for the misunderstanding, The 50 for $55 I was talking aboutwas 308 match ammo from creedmoor sports, not the 6.5 creedmoor cartridge
 
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