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.25 WSSM thread.. I'm starting over.

What's a 'BIB'?

Yesterday's surgery was successful.
Good to hear on the surgery!
I had the Corpal Tunnel done on both hands over the summer.

Unless your left handed, go shoot that sucker!!
I was shooting rifles 2 weeks after my surgery.
Just don't tell my wife!!

Shooting pistols is still not real comfortable.
 
Has anyone played with the 110gr Hornady ELDX, or Sierra Tipped GameKings yet to see how they group?

I have a box of the ELDX, but waiting on my build to be finished instead of just wasting them.

The Sierra's seem to be made of unobtainium.
 
Well, ya gotta love how things work out.
While shopping for a Savage in 7mm-08 ( i have reamer, gauges, dies for 7mm-08AI) i came accross a rifle i couldn't say no to.
Browning A Bolt Synthetic in 25 WSSM. $459.

Ordering brass & dies now.
 
I used to have a Winchester Model 70 in 25 WSSM and I shot cast lead in it. Phenomenal shooting rifle, terrible to find a good trigger. My biggest issue was always the brass. I still have a couple hundred cases and a set of rcbs neck dies, but the factory Winchester brass had a tendency to split the necks. I had brand new cases out of the bags split on the initial load.

Glad to see people still running this round. I've thought a few times about building another one on an action could put a good trigger in but brass life still scares me a little.

Much luck in your project!
 
I'm back again, FWIW. Shoulders and arms feel good, and I'm losing some weight and bloodsugar.. Have gone thru a couple variations of 6 Creedmoor rifles and have given up, and I've finally decided to reload for and SHOOT my Savage 12 BR rifle in 25WSSM.. Just today have listed some barrel-breakin and siting loads for the rifle.. Have plenty-'nuff of 16 types of powder to play with, and 4 types of bullets*, and about 10K of primers.

Just this week it's been not-hot enough to shoot in the mornings, so I think I'll be shooting in a few days.

YAY!

* 110g. ELD-Xs, 115g. Berger VLDs, 134g. ELDMs, and 135g. Long-Range Hybrid Targets.
 
Got lucky today; my Tucson buddy--thank you, Wayne!--saw on Long-Range Hunter.com someone in my neighborhood selling an 8-pounder of Rel.26.. Thx to Wayne, I agreed to buy it and drove to Gilbert.. We had a nice chat and he sold me TWO new jugs! I now have plenty.

Am getting my initial test loads of four bullets and 5 powders started today.. These are as much for barrel-breakin as for pressure testing. Bullets are 110 ELDXs, 115 VLDs, 134 ELDMs, and 135 LRHTs.. Powders are 760, R17, SUPERformance, and R26.


I'm really pulling for the 110s and 134s.
 
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I don't have much room left with RL17 in the 25 WSSM.
Not sure there's enough case for RL26.
R26 must be denser than 17; I got a series of charges of R26 up thru 50g. behind the H134s.. Also bought a pound of StaBALL HD, which is the next step slower than Retumbo in Hodgdon's burning-rate chart, and assembled a series thru 50g. with that.

SHOOTING tomorrow (Sep. 27) at Ben Avery, the first time since spring of 2021.. Have 50 pairs (couldn't stop!) to shoot plus my initial site-in and break-in factory rounds.
 
Well, I got to Ben Avery today but had a few problems.. First, the scope I was using, a very expensive Zeiss, couldn't be adjusted down enough to overcome the 20MOA rail I was using, so siting was 'difficult', and then the Winchester factory loads I bought chambered so difficultly that I coudn't shoot them, so I went home.. FWIW, my handloads worked just finely.. Couldn't find ANYWHERE a 'flat' scope rail, but I discovered that a different Zeiss scope with more elevation range could be screwed down far enough (I think) so I mounted that.

Also tweaked the headspacing a little and all the ammo now fits and the no-go headspace gage 'no-gos'.. Never even got to see if my LabRADAR still works.. Going back tomorrow morn.
 
Well, I got to Ben Avery today but had a few problems.. First, the scope I was using, a very expensive Zeiss, couldn't be adjusted down enough to overcome the 20MOA rail I was using, so siting was 'difficult', and then the Winchester factory loads I bought chambered so difficultly that I coudn't shoot them, so I went home.. FWIW, my handloads worked just finely.. Couldn't find ANYWHERE a 'flat' scope rail, but I discovered that a different Zeiss scope with more elevation range could be screwed down far enough (I think) so I mounted that.

Also tweaked the headspacing a little and all the ammo now fits and the no-go headspace gage 'no-gos'.. Never even got to see if my LabRADAR still works.. Going back tomorrow morn.
Did you check out EGW?
It's who I use.
www.egwguns.com
 
You sure you don't have a zero stop enabled on the first Zeiss ?
There's nothing in the Instructions about a zero-stop, so I disassembled the top turret and found nothing that looks like an artificial or adjustable rotational stop to me.. But I reinstalled the Zeiss 4.8-35, and next time to the range, I'll also bring the 4-12X.. I also ordered two flat rails from EGW, thx to std7mag.. The Savage 12 Benchrest Rifle is a single-shot, dual-port, round-top action with a 3.9n" screw-centerspan.
2021Dec28_DSF0833_Rifle and Zeiss Scope_2000w.jpg
 
Well, I got to Ben Avery today but had a few problems.. First, the scope I was using, a very expensive Zeiss, couldn't be adjusted down enough to overcome the 20MOA rail I was using, so siting was 'difficult', and then the Winchester factory loads I bought chambered so difficultly that I coudn't shoot them, so I went home.. FWIW, my handloads worked just finely.. Couldn't find ANYWHERE a 'flat' scope rail, but I discovered that a different Zeiss scope with more elevation range could be screwed down far enough (I think) so I mounted that.


Odds-n-ends results of the 2nd day.. Shot 24 pairs of rounds and produced only 4 bugholes.. Two were powered with R17; 2 used VLD115s, and 2 used the ELDM134s which were powered with 2 very slow-burning powders, StaBALL HD and IMR7828.. My LabRadar worked for ONE shot and then I couldn't get it running again...and I'm finished with the damned thing, as I apparently don't have the memory and/or brains to know how to keep it running even when I'm reading the instructions...and this has happened before.. I've ordered an Oehler 35P.. I've had one previously, and it never failed to work correctly.. I have plenty of handloads to test so I'll see some velocities soon.. Received yesterday a machined 25WSSM case for my Hornady O. A. L. gage and will select a load or 2 to do a seating-depth series, as now I have far more data available than is useful, a result of too much time available.
 
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There's nothing in the Instructions about a zero-stop, so I disassembled the top turret and found nothing that looks like an artificial or adjustable rotational stop to me.. But I reinstalled the Zeiss 4.8-35, and next time to the range, I'll also bring the 4-12X.. I also ordered two flat rails from EGW, thx to std7mag.. The Savage 12 Benchrest Rifle is a single-shot, dual-port, round-top action with a 3.9n" screw-centerspan.
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Glad I could help!!

Found another bullet you may want to try.
145gr ULD.
www.blackholebullets.com

I just ordered 2 boxes of their 120gr bullets to try. All my 25 caliber rifles are a 1:10 twist.
 
There's nothing in the Instructions about a zero-stop, so I disassembled the top turret and found nothing that looks like an artificial or adjustable rotational stop to me.. But I reinstalled the Zeiss 4.8-35, and next time to the range, I'll also bring the 4-12X.. I also ordered two flat rails from EGW, thx to std7mag.. The Savage 12 Benchrest Rifle is a single-shot, dual-port, round-top action with a 3.9n" screw-centerspan.
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Google Zeiss Victory V8 zero stop, those scopes do come with a feature to "lock the turret" or set a zero stop
 

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