22rf "trainers' ...what do they really train?
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I guess my idea of shooting rim fire is for overall training, trigger time. My focus is XTC High Power, I shoot indoor during the winter in both rifle and pistol leagues. In the spring I run 100yd prone matches .22 rifle, I let anyone shoot bench rest, F class or sling(I'm sling)....I get great benefit from learning position, trigger control and wind reading, so my personal shooting has improved.
I do shoot a few PRS matches and have a CZ trainer...again shooting NRL a few times does help with your plan of attack and learning best approaches for props. To shoot a 22 well, you need focus and follow thru....to me it beats dry firing because there a real result from a shot vs a call.
I do shoot a few PRS matches and have a CZ trainer...again shooting NRL a few times does help with your plan of attack and learning best approaches for props. To shoot a 22 well, you need focus and follow thru....to me it beats dry firing because there a real result from a shot vs a call.
B23
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This gal, per the video, appears to be a pretty good shooter and for the most part all of her shots seemed to land in the same area.
If she were to have switched to a CF rifle part way through, do you believe she would have shot better, worse, or the same when she, hypothetically, switched to shooting a CF rifle?
Not directing this at anyone, just curious what y'all think.
dellet
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And yet you have not given me even one example of how your use a 22 rim fire to train for the center fire game. Especially at 400 yd +.
Examples from basketball and archery and splitting wood and other irrelevant topics are totally irrelevant. You wasted your time posting all that.
It convinces me you don't know. You can't explain it. You can stomp your feet and claim it's true but you can't support your case.
So… good bye.
And one more time you have missed the point entirely. Applying seeming unrelated things can be a very good way to diagnose problems and or fill gaps in other disciplines, it opens the mind.
You mocked me with with what you thought was completely ridiculous scenario. I showed you that it makes perfect sense and even applied to shooting sports. The further mocking just shows how narrow minded you really are.
The earth doesn't spin faster or slower for rimfire than it does for centerfire, bullet time of flight is all that matters. One will cover more distance than the other.
The sun does not shine any more or less for rimfire or centerfire, so mirage doesn't care if you shoot high or low because you can't interpret it.
Wind from the left does not lift a rimfire bullet up, but push a centerfire bullet down.
All this can be done in much less space with a 22LR.
These are things that may be worked on that apply directly. Depending on Strelock may be better at putting the bullet on target, but you will never know why if all you do is plug in numbers and make the clicks.
Many people have given you suggestions of what you might expect to improve shooting 22LR. Most of it either does not apply to how you shoot, or you have mastered the subject. Either way you find it useless, even if you haven't tried it.
Don't blame me because I can't explain something to you, that requires you to have actual experience to understand, when you refuse to have the experience. It's the experience that will give you the understanding.
I can assure you that if she had this 13 pound rifle with a 25 power scope on it she most likely would have hit it multiple times. A heavy well balanced rifle will always outperform a lighter rifle in experienced hands!Off-handing a heavier rifle prolly would have opened up her impact zone. (It would mine, anyway.)
That said....wimmenz are "designed well" for off-hand / standing shooting, and getting that elbow on the hipbone. All of which is very easy on the eyes.
http://www.champchoice.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetailOptions&item=010862
Yeah, she knows what she is doing!
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com...better-video-training-with-kirsten-joy-weiss/
The young woman in the video is Kristen Joy Weiss. She’s a former NCAA smallbore shooter from the University of Nebraska. She is an excellent shooter and is a sponsored shooter by several industry manufacturers. She has great technique and follow through given her years of smallbore shooting. You’ll find other videos of her using a heavier Anschutz 3P rifle, which is a purpose built rimfire rifle. The weight and balance of a match rifle would have more than likely given her better results. Heavier rifles tend to settle more in offhand and you’ll find competitors from various sports that favor rifles weighing north of 12-15 lbs as they offer an advantage.
B23
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Apparently you're reading comprehension isn't very good because I NEVER said anything about her skills. In fact, I acknowledged the fact she appears to be a good shooter.
My point, you know, the one you obviously missed, was that do you believe she would have shot as well had she switched to attempting the same shot with a CF, after attempting it with the RF and instead of anyone saying yes or no, they instead started making excuses about gun weight.
Sorry, I didn’t see your original post, so my reading comprehension skills are not in question. The answer is yes. Of course that is a hypothetical answer to your hypothetical question.
Any mention of “weight” that I made was to address the point Garamdman was making about lighter rifles being easier to shoot offhand than heavier ones.
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Apparently girls don’t have that problem.
ouch lol
garandman
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Right.
The law of gravity doesnt apply to wimmenz. .
Why did she even mention that was a heavy rifle ?
Stock design makes a difference. The M1, while fine battle rifle, does not have the ergonomics of a modern Olympic match rifle, both in terms of the balance and the adjustment to fit the shooter. The Anschutz 2012 that Kristen Weiss shot in 3-P Smallbore would be miserable in combat (ignoring the calibre) as the stock is too restrictive, but it's an excellent match rifle.
The highest match score I've seen for Standing was 398 ex 400 (10.4mm 10-ring at 50m) shot by a 22yo girl weighing 116lb. Rifle was a Swiss Bleiker, so at least 10lb. It also helps when your dad is a four-time Olympian.
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