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222 Lapua Brass

Richard Jones

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Couple of weird (to me) pieces of brass.

First pic: bottom piece is right out of the box, untouched. Top piece is noticeably shorter at the shoulder. A lot shorter. Chambered with resistance.
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Second pic: top piece is right out of the box, untouched. Bottom piece doesn't look like the shoulder was fully formed and has a pronounced ring at the base of the neck.
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I'm sure they will form OK, just curious as to what others have seen and what you think about these two.

R
 
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Wow, that's crazy. Have never seen that kind of QC problem with Lapua before.

The last lot (LPT00978) of Lapua .222 Rem brass I bought, about a year ago, was fine.

What lot are these pieces from?

If it were me, I'd send these pictures, along with lot number and retailer information, to Lapua and see what they say. My guess is they'd want to know what went sideways with this batch. And hopefully will send you replacements.
 
Yes, send the pictures along to Lapua with your description. Will you hear a solution, no, probably not. Chances are they are already aware of the problem and it's been fixed so case closed.

Lapua brass is not always the highest quality. They have manufacturing failures and QC failures just like every other manufacturer. Remember when the great uproar occurred over Lapua .223 Rem. brass?

Fortunately, we now have several other manufacturers to make premium, top quality brass. .222 Rem. may be a problem but open the discussion with Lapua to try for a solution.

;)
 
Couple of weird (to me) pieces of brass.

First pic: bottom piece is right out of the box, untouched. Top piece is noticeably shorter at the shoulder. A lot shorter. Chambered with resistance.
View attachment 1390366

Second pic: top piece is right out of the box, untouched. Bottom piece doesn't look like the shoulder was fully formed and has a pronounced ring at the base of the neck.
View attachment 1390367

I'm sure they will form OK, just curious as to what others have seen and what you think about these two.

R
Richard,
Please contact us in regard to this issue at: Support@capstonepg.com
Thanks !
 
Fortunately, we now have several other manufacturers to make premium, top quality brass.
We sure do.
My experience with Lapua 222 is limited to 20(?) cases I bought a few years ago
My 222 needs neck turning. I found Lapua no better than anyone else’s. In another caliber I found Peterson to be better.
I’m not upset one bit they are no longer shipping to the U S A
 
any updates?

When you say:
"First pic: bottom piece is right out of the box, untouched."
"Second pic: top piece is right out of the box, untouched."

what prep was done with the adjacent piece before the picture?

as it appears they are NOT "Right out of the box"
but if so, they are clearly defective
 
OLD thread, but.......... Spoke with Phil, all good. Stuff happens.

No prep done to any of it. Right out of the box, not sure how to say it any other way. Loaded it, shot it, right into the group.

Defective or not, it's still the best.
 
OLD thread, but.......... Spoke with Phil, all good. Stuff happens.

No prep done to any of it. Right out of the box, not sure how to say it any other way. Loaded it, shot it, right into the group.

Defective or not, it's still the best.
This is an old thread, but I'm looking for some Lapua 222Rem brass, so thought I would take a chance.

The closer I look, the more differences I see. The rim on the top/top case looks thicker. And the neck on the top/bottom looks narrower. Maybe those are optical illusions.

What did Lapua have to say? Were these the "New" cardboard box? Any differences in headstamp size/depth?

Not sure I want to take a chance after seeing this.
 
Surprise.
That should be done before posting here and getting the pot stirrers coming out of the walls.
Don't blame the OP, or the "Pot Stirrers", as you call them.

Sharing information about potentially defective merchandise is a valuable service to fellow members, regardless of whether the manufacturer "makes it right".

I have been using Lapua brass for three decades, and still consider it the best quality available. But I still want to know what happened with that batch of 222! In fifty years of reloading, I've never seen anything like that! That's beyond "minor imperfections". I don't want any surprises if I buy a box and have to deal with "making it right".

A simple "We identified a bad lot, and have recalled them", or another explanation from Capstone would have put this to rest.
 
Don't blame the OP, or the "Pot Stirrers", as you call them.

Sharing information about potentially defective merchandise is a valuable service to fellow members, regardless of whether the manufacturer "makes it right".

I have been using Lapua brass for three decades, and still consider it the best quality available. But I still want to know what happened with that batch of 222! In fifty years of reloading, I've never seen anything like that! That's beyond "minor imperfections". I don't want any surprises if I buy a box and have to deal with "making it right".

A simple "We identified a bad lot, and have recalled them", or another explanation from Capstone would have put this to rest.
I had a nice conversation with Phil about this, but after almost 2 years, mostly what I remember is, stuff happens. To anyone.
 
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Surprise.
That should be done before posting here and getting the pot stirrers coming out of the walls.
Why? Even if I had spoken with Phil first, I would have still posted the pics. It was still a valid concern. It's not like it wasn't real. And you can't tell from my post, maybe I had already spoken with him. I hadn't, and said so, but you couldn't tell.

What I should/shouldn't have done is not the takeaway. It was always about the brass.
 
Why? Even if I had spoken with Phil first, I would have still posted the pics. It was still a valid concern. It's not like it wasn't real. And you can't tell from my post, maybe I had already spoken with him. I hadn't, and said so, but you couldn't tell.

What I should/shouldn't have done is not the takeaway. It was always about the brass.
You did the right think and you got results. Think you for posting the pictures
 
I have a new box of Lapua .222 brass I need to sell. Will the lot # mean anything to buyers when I post it? I am sure this one is at least 5 years old.
 
Couple of weird (to me) pieces of brass.

First pic: bottom piece is right out of the box, untouched. Top piece is noticeably shorter at the shoulder. A lot shorter. Chambered with resistance.
View attachment 1390366

Second pic: top piece is right out of the box, untouched. Bottom piece doesn't look like the shoulder was fully formed and has a pronounced ring at the base of the neck.
View attachment 1390367

I'm sure they will form OK, just curious as to what others have seen and what you think about these two.

R
Dang it, I need to remind myself to look at the original post date
still this reflects my experience and timeframe of Lapua brass going downhill
Its composition may be nice but
the QC has gotten bad
 

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