22 creed, 22x47L, 22 GT...... which would you build and why?

[nakneker]

Just won a Remington rifle on the cheap, it has a decent stock that can be bedded if it is what I think it is. I wanna do something I haven’t had before, not too crazy. The rifle is a Remington 243, I’m thinking 22 creedmoor, 22x47L or a 22 GT. They are all pretty easy to load for, they all have excellent brass Available. Dies between those three I don’t know much about as far as how easy they are to get. This would be a shorter barreled varmint gun.

Have you had any of the ones I’ve mentioned? Advantages, disadvantages?

 

[boltfluter]

I would try a .22 GT with a fast twist just to be different. Sounds like a fun round with descent barrel life.

Paul

 

[Ranger188]

I've done a 22 creed. Burns barrels out
The 22GT or 22x47 would give you almost, if not the same speed
and burn less powder. The 22br, 22Dasher are also nice rounds.
You don't see many people rebarreling for a 2nd-3rd 22 creed, unless your a predator hunter
and not going to run many rounds.
It was a neat idea, but better choice's now

 

[nakneker]

Well, I checked as much as I could in a day on the three I mentioned. Gonna go with the 22GT, the Creed sounds a bit overbore and hard on barrels. I have a 25x47, 6x47 and 6.5x47, probably safer not to build a 22x47, I have a hard enough time keeping things organized as it is. The 22GT has good head stamped brass and I think it will be an enjoyable project this time around, I’m wanting to shoot 70-85 grainers. I’ll get a barrel coming and when I get the brass I’ll make a dummy round and send it off to JGS for a reamer.

Boltfluter and Ranger thanks for the input. Paul I’ll send you a message on getting this bolt fluted, you‘ve done a couple for me in the past and they came out great.

Onward.

 

[B23]

If a 22 Creedmoor is to overbore then I guess a 22-250AI and 220 Swift must be too because they all three have nearly the same case capacity and holy cow Batman the 22-243 improved variants and 22-6mm's must be reallllly overbore then and we better not ever bring up a 22-284.

We all like different things for different reasons but you're wanting to launch some pretty heavy for caliber bullets so I'll assume you plan on stretching the yardage out on this build and shooting it at + distances so I'd think the 22 Creedmoor would not only be the easy peasy lemon squeezy choice but that little extra case capacity/velocity would be welcomed. And as for barrel life, it has as much to do with how you shoot it as anything else. Get em hot and keep banging away at it and you can roach the throat in pretty much anything in no time flat. Barrel life in a 22 Creedmore, using your head when you shoot it, will last you plenty long to put many smiles on your face.

 

[Matt_3479]

Sounds awesome. Out of the choices I’d go 22gt but would probably lean hard on the 22 br, 22bra, 22 dasher though

 

[Oso]

You need to replace the POS factory stock... dump it and go budget friendly with a $275 B&C stock. This is something you can knock out while you are waiting for your barrel.

22 Creedmoor, 22-250, and other similar cases are barrel burners... arguably 1000 rounds and then accuracy starts dropping. Yes, this can be offset by using a mild load, but then why not just size appropriate the cartridge. I like the idea behind the 6GT case, but you now have added the additional challenge of finding brass and dies. There is an ongoing debate in PRS that this cartridge is a solution looking for a marginal problem... I have no skin in this fight. I have contemplated a 6GT for a future build.

Depending on your intended use (range and velocity), you might also consider is a 22BR or even a 22 Grendel. Brass, dies, and reamers available and there are proven loads and experience from other shooters.

 

[nakneker]

I misspoke about the wieght of bullets I’m wanting to shoot. I want to set this up for 50-60 grain bullets not 70-85 grain bullets like I mentioned above (Had 6mm on the brain), didn’t want to edit and confuse people. Most of the shots I get when calling are inside 400 yards and I always have a rifle set up for farther distance in the jeep.

As far as fast 22 caliber rifles I have two 220 swifts, I’ve had a 22-250 improved and 22-250, I have a 22BR, I have a 20ppc.... etc etc. I’m not after the fastest, the swifts have that covered. Just looking for something new and different. A creedmoor would be fun but for whatever reason the 22GT is more appealing to me. I’d build them both if I could.

I have the brass inbound, alpha munitions. It’s in stock in several places right now. I ordered mine from Blue Collar Reloading. When it gets here I’ll get a dummy round put together and send it off to JGS. Should have the barrel and reamer by the end of the year and hopefully have the rifle back in hand by February. Called Jon Beanland for this one and got on his books, I’ve always been more than happy with his work.

Should be fun. Still working on the dies.

 

[dnellans]

I thought long and hard about a 22GT shooting 90 a-tips. On paper it’s better than a BRA shooting 109’s. However a bunch of people who couldn’t get a 22 BR to shoot well enough convinced me to change my mind.

I’m now thing about a 25 creedmoor instead because i need a new project!

 

[Oso]

Clearly you got a illness... I am heavy in .22/.223 cartridge variants so I can't throw stones. That is a solid plan with JGS reamer. I'll be interested in following your build.

 

[10XSHOOTER]

I've been thinking of a 22 ARC in a bolt gun.

 

[Allen5108]

I've been thinking of a 22 ARC in a bolt gun.

You should post this in an AR thread and see how many people you trigger

 

[urbanrifleman]

22xc.

I have dies and blanks. I'm thinking 75 eldm at about 3550.

 

[Allen5108]

I’ve got a 22GT, unfortunately I haven’t gotten around to shooting it yet. It still lacks a bedding job and scope mounting. The round appealed to me because of the small efficient case design, projected barrel life, and the fact that it feeds well from AI mags without the modifications that the BR cases require. I’m looking forward to the day that I actually get to start slinging lead from it.

 

[Kimber.204]

For me it would be between the 22x47L and the 22GT....probably the 22GT.

I have a .220 Thunderbolt (6mm Hagar necked down to .224) in a bolt action by John Scandale at Keystone Accuracy. This is an amazing little cartridge. I am presently using about 29gr of IMR-4166 to push an 88gr ELD-M at/around 3100fps. Recoil doesn't feel much more than a .223 Rem, but is notably less than my 6XC. The problem with the .220 Thunderbolt is the odd case head size - it's the same as a 6.8SPC or a .224 Valkyrie.

I started looking at other options with a standard .308 case head diameter.

The 22x47L has similar (greater?) case capacity to the .22-250 but in a more efficient case design. Sort of like a 6mm SLR compared to the parent .243Win. I actually think that this case could be....dare I say it....too big to duplicate the speeds of the Thunderbolt.
The 22GT I think....I don't own one....I think has about the perfect case capacity to do what my Thunderbolt does in a std boltface cartridge. But with the 22x47L I could use Peterson Cartridge brass - which I love to support since they are a local company.

I'd say choose one and build it. Burn the barrel out and you'll know really quick if you want another one or not. Good luck.
Ross

 

[nakneker]

Lots of good comments. We’re spoiled today, you look at the cartridges we get to choose from, the brass, the dies, the barrels, stocks and all the other goodies and we are spoiled. You couldn‘t build them all in a lifetime so just do what you can and enjoy.

 

[Ranger188]

I think you made a great choice and it has brass already to go.
Have fun with it. What twist are you thinking?

 

[nakneker]

I think you made a great choice and it has brass already to go.
Have fun with it. What twist are you thinking?

1 in 9, could get by easy enough with something a bit slower but I could shoot something a bit heavier with a 1 in 9 I think.

 

[Ranger188]

Good choice, it will work with a slightly heavier bullet if you want
but won't spin them fast enough to worry about blow-ups.
400yds. and closer, great for varmint or steel ringing

 

[Oso]

I've been thinking of a 22 ARC in a bolt gun.

Yes - If I were looking for something stronger than a 223AI then and want to stay within a AR15 platform then I would probably just go to the Grendel/Arc cartridge and forgo the 22-204. or 222 Rem Mag. The 6Arc is going to do wonders for gaining attention for the Grendel based cartridges.