20 Vartarg comparison vs 204 ruger vs 20 ppc

[roband]

Im in the same boat as the majority here.
Plague, poison and the introduction of ferrits (spell check) have all but eliminated the P-Dogs here.
Wasn't to long ago we would shoot a brick of 22's in a half of day,there were always a couple or three of us out of pick up truck windows.No rests, tables and the like.Still don't know why my Ruger 10-22's even function.I know one of mine has over 50k shot thru it.
Came into a cooper 38 in 20vt,with 32 grainers its pure poison out to 300 ish on P-dogs.
Also have a Tact 20 with the available offerings (40 Bergers my fave) it kills coyotes almost as good as a Swift or 22 250 but mine has almost no barrel jump at ignition.Something about seeing the kills i guess.For P-Dogs its a little overkill, with 32's loaded on the hotter side, plenty of flight time for sure.
Been thinking about another 20 of some sort, these two mentioned above work so well for their intended purposes..... Hope this helps rather than confuse.

 

[searcher]

Of the three you list, I think the only logical choice for high-volume shooting is the .204 Ruger if economy of shooting is any factor. Buying 1,000 pieces of brass to make 20 PPC brass is going to set you back $1,200+. And when I go on a shoot, I take far more than that. So, for me, I'd rule that one out for that reason. The Vartarg is a very efficient round, though the only benefit over the .204 is less powder used. If it is performance that you want - forget that one too. But to really get the best of all, don't do the .204 Ruger either. Instead do the .20 Practical. Performance is just as good, brass more readily available in tough times of shortages - and it is far cheaper with more brands to choose from. I've shot many thousands of rounds from that cartridge and for within 400 yards or so, it is all one needs. While you can shoot out double that yardage with the Practical (or .204 Ruger), it is really nice to also have a larger cartridge in your battery when the wind is blowing and they are way out there. For a long time, on those longer shots, I used a 6BR due to the light recoil, though it suffers from the same situation of high cost for brass. So, I began experimenting with a .22 Nosler, which kind of boosts things with the use of heavier, higher BC bullets like the 62 eld-vt, which starts to shine past 450-500 yards and can still be shot a lot without excessive barrel heat putting a quick stop to things. It works as an "in-between" of the Practical and the 6 BR nicely. There are a few more nice .22 cartridges out that would deserve a look too.

 

[L.Sherm]

I've never looked at brass as the deciding factor when wanting to build a rifle for "LR" especially, ive proven to myself to many times that brass like Lapua, ADG etc. is worth the money in accuracy and longevity.
When you start shooting past 400 everything starts to add up, a .5 moa gun at 400 leaves just about zero error on P.D and sage rats especially. Plus Quality brass will last alot more firings than lesser brass especially if your running upper end loads which thats were some rifles shoot the best.
At the end of the day if you want a certain caliber build it.

 

[roband]

I've never looked at brass as the deciding factor when wanting to build a rifle for "LR" especially, ive proven to myself to many times that brass like Lapua, ADG etc. is worth the money in accuracy and longevity.
When you start shooting past 400 everything starts to add up, a .5 moa gun at 400 leaves just about zero error on P.D and sage rats especially. Plus Quality brass will last alot more firings than lesser brass especially if your running upper end loads which thats were some rifles shoot the best.
At the end of the day if you want a certain caliber build it.

Well said....

 

[varget204]

here are few pictures with a 204 ruger 39 Blitz king it started raining that day rushed 3rd shot at 9 o"clock & 40 V-Max at 600 yds ,40 V-@ 900 yds, addeda 4th 30 minute later,a few at 1000 yds with 40 v-max different rifles, different powders.

 

[varget204]

3 more @ 1000 Yards & 1 @ 800 yards, with 40 V-max

 

[Hal]

V204
Looks like your rifle is a shooting machine.
What is it's specs and what powder are you using?

Hal

 

[ND shooter]

V204
Looks like your rifle is a shooting machine.
What is it's specs and what powder are you using?

Hal

You beat me to it.^^^°°°°

 

[varget204]

V204
Looks like your rifle is a shooting machine.
What is it's specs and what powder are you using?

Hal

2 Savage Factory, 1 Xcaliber, 3 Criterion, 1 Krieger, all 7 barrels 26", the Criterion have Match Chambers from NSS. 2 -Varmint,1- LT Varmint, 4-HVY Bull Sporter .750 @ muzzle.,on 2 Savage Actions. using Varget, Win 748 & IMR 8208 XBR, have not tried H-4895 yet got the highest velocity with it@ 3950 to 4000 fps with the 40 V-Max ,Varget ,started with Sightron III 8-32x56,went to Sightron III 10-50x60 .all shooting off Harris BRM & Sinclair F-Class bipods Protektor DR rearbags. Believe HVY Bull Sporter & LT Varmint shoot just as good as the Varmint barrels. Shot out the savages & 2 criterion, still shooting the Krieger,3200 round count beyond 650 yds the 39 gr B King fell way off. The Ballistic tables are close to about 700 yds, at 900 to 1000 Not Remotely close, took a while to figure out the Drop @900 & 1000 yds. the range was grass out to 1100 yards& No spotter, I'm shooting @ 1200' to 1260' altitude, Think the 204 Ruger is an Amazing Round Highly Underrated.

 

[searcher]

I've never looked at brass as the deciding factor when wanting to build a rifle for "LR" especially, ive proven to myself to many times that brass like Lapua, ADG etc. is worth the money in accuracy and longevity.
When you start shooting past 400 everything starts to add up, a .5 moa gun at 400 leaves just about zero error on P.D and sage rats especially. Plus Quality brass will last alot more firings than lesser brass especially if your running upper end loads which thats were some rifles shoot the best.
At the end of the day if you want a certain caliber build it.

If my gun shot 1/2 MOA, I'd be spending the money on a better barrel or whatever was needed to get it "up to speed". Would be cheaper than buying thousands of pieces of Lapua brass (for a p-dog or sage rat trip) to eke out a small improvement - if one were able to get it. Not knocking Lapua brass, as I love it and use it, but it doesn't work miracles. Also, if a rifle already shoots 1/3 MOA (even with cheap brass), one has to have reasonable expectations as to what kind of accuracy gain they can expect if they think they will get something better with Lapau. I think too many people expect it to show dramatic improvement after reading all the hype on these forums and that it will last "forever". Then they find it doesn't last much longer in their A/R and realize it was a bad choice for that application - and that it didn't shoot appreciably better groups. I swear by Lapua in my target rifles - but my attitude changes when getting into my varmint rigs. I doubt I'm the only one.