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.20 Vartarg barrel length and twist for lead frees

Decided I'd post some info for others to reference now that the rifle is together. So far, very happy with it, and hope to go on another 4 day squirrel blasting trip in about 2 weeks after the first alfalfa cutting.

Using LC 223 brass formed to 20VT, case capacity after firing is 21.77gr H2O

Barrel is 26", 10 twist, 0 freebore reamer.

24gr Hornady NTX seated to 1.805" OAL (throat measured 1.815" to the initial soft touch on the lands, and if I shove hard on the OAL tool the bullet hits a hard stop at 1.875" OAL.) 1.805" puts the ogive of the 24gr NTX right about even with the case neck and the base about even with the start of the case neck, so it's not eating up excess case capacity seated to 1.805".

Vihtavuori N120 & CCI 450

Initial rounds out of the barrel and first round of testing to figure out velocities, these got popped into the burn pile out in the orchard before loading some up to head to the range...

16.5gr 3711 fps
16.8gr 3780 fps
17.1gr 3850 fps
17.4gr 3900 fps
17.7gr 3975 fps
18.0 gr 4035fps -- very, very slight drag on the bolt handle on bolt open, but primer radius and firing pin indent looked perfect like all the other charges.

Loaded up 100 at 17.25gr to settle the barrel down, and after shooting up all of those loaded up the second round for testing at 300Y.

Second round of testing:

17.20gr 3800 fps
17.35gr 3835 fps
17.50gr 3885 fps
17.65gr 3910 fps
17.8gr 3960 fps

N120 wasn't happy at the lower charge weights, the ES/SD especially at 17.2gr but also at 17.35gr was high and groups at 300Y weren't great, about 1 MOA. Groups tightened up substantially and ES/SD came way down at 17.5gr and above. 17.5, 17.65, and 17.8gr were all very good at 300Y, about 1"-1.5" 5 shot groups. 17.5 & 17.65 were about on the same elevation on the target while 17.8 was impacting about 1.5" higher.

Decided on 17.58gr, now need to load some up and put a final zero on the rifle but it should end up about 3890fps. Temps were 80-85F the day I was testing, so hopefully 17.58gr leaves some margin for shooting on 100F days since I'm not sure about the temp sensitivity of N120; this is the first time I've used it.

Running the numbers for a 24NTX at 3890fps vs a Nosler 32 BTLF at 3575fps (my initial bullet choice, but as of now still unavailable); looks like the 24 NTX drops less and they're both nearly identical for wind drift at 400Y. The 32 BTLF does start with more energy and retains more energy than the 24 NTX. If the Nosler 32 BTLF's become available again I'll certainly try some, but since the 24 NTXs are less expensive, shot accurately, and are readily available, if they do a good job blowing up squirrels I'll probably just end up sticking with the 24 NTXs.

2 things stood out when I was doing load development on the 20VT next to my 223AI; the 20 VT has very little recoil, and after the same amount of shots the 20VT barrel was barely warmer than ambient while the 223AI was getting pretty warm. Why didn't I build one of these things earlier? My friend who was with me that day and also goes on the squirrel blasting trips with me took a few shots and now he wants to build one...
 
Good info. Unfortunately all I have at the moment for small rifle primers are Wolf KVB556M and CCI450s. I just used up the last of my Remington 7.5s and was hoping to consolidate my small rifle primer inventory to only 450s.

I considered that the 450s might be a little spicy for the little 20VT, but that's what I had on hand so I tried them.

I used to use the 7.5s for 223 and 223AI, and the 450s for 22BR, 22GT, and 6 Dasher. I was hoping to consolidate to only the 450s, so I've already tried the 450s in 223 and 223AI in lieu of the 7.5s and they worked just as well as the 7.5s so I'm migrating all my 223 and 223AI loads to the 450s.

The SD/ES and group size tightened up very nicely at 17.5gr and above, so I was assuming it was powder charge and not primers. On Vihtavuori's website they state "Vihtavuori N120 needs higher pressure than N110 in order to optimize the burning", so I was thinking around 17.5 the pressure was finally up high enough to make N120 happy.

Also, while a different powder, Hodgdon does provide load data for 20VT with a 24gr NTX. They show a max of 4077fps out of a 24" barrel in a Remington case with 21.0gr AA2200. Not sure what the case capacity is of formed Remington 221 fireball cases that they probably used, but I have a hunch my formed LC cases have less case capacity at 21.77gr H2O, so I didn't think I was leaving much on the table when I tested things. I ran some numbers in quickload for a sanity check for Hodgdon's AA2200 data using the QL database default of 23.5gr H2O for the case capacity, and adjusted the powder burn rate until the velocity matched Hodgdon's data at 4077fps. When I did that the pressure QL returned was very close to Hodgdon's load data. I then dropped the case capacity to 21.77gr H2O to match my formed LC cases, and leaving the burn rate the same I dropped the charge until QL showed the same pressure as the 23.5gr H2O case. QL came back with only needing 19.85gr AA2200 in the smaller 21.77gr H2O case capacity to reach the same pressure, and a velocity of 4007fps, so it appears the smaller case capacity of the formed LC cases will limit max velocity, at least with AA2200.

N120 is a completely different powder, but since AA2200 is also one of the "go to" powders for the 20VT I wasn't surprised when I noticed a very, very light drag on the bolt lift at 18gr N120 / 4035 fps.
 
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I shoot all LC brass in my 5-20VT's ive had still have 3 and all shoot 20.3 with AA2200 give or take .01 with the 34 v- nitemare and 7.5's.
 
I'll see if a friend has some 205/205M, or 400 primers I can try before I go out and buy some. I dug around this morning and found I do have 200 7.5s left that I could try, those are the last of a batch of 20k I bought several years ago.

I'm not against stocking yet another primer, but I was really hoping I could consolidate to only having 450s on the shelf for all of my small rifle primer needs. If another primer provides better results on target though, I'll buy some of those primers...
 
I understand on primer situation.

the powder used in small cases doesn’t require a magnum primer.. the Rem 7.5 was specifically designed for the 221FB, running low myself

I use fed 205, Win Wsr, cci 400 the most in my little Vartarg variant.. w/ 19.9gr of N120 pushing a 32gr NoslerBT
 
Your problem i can see with AA2200 using the 24 grain bullet could not being able to get enough in the case, im starting to climb in the neck at 20.4 taping the bottom of the case to get the powder to settle would probably help.
 

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