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PTG Lonestar Action

Whats the general feedback on being worth the purchase on this action. Seems like a good way to build a decent benchrest 22. Would it be any better than building off a CZ action? Of course, "you get what you pay for" comes to mind also.......
 
I had one and it had some extraction issues but after Gene Davis went through it and replaced the extractor and springs I never had another issue with it. Rifle shot extremely well, at the price they are now you have some room to play with them a little, It's basically a 40x, I think it's a step up from a CZ for a full build plus you can use a Remington 700 style trigger
 
If you are a lefty, I have a brand new complete pqp 2500x build nearing completion. I may let it go due to eye issues?
 
Spend the money wisely and get a 2500x.

PTG has a less than stellar reputation for customer service…..
I expected to hear this. And respect the opinion. My gut feeling is with a good barrel and trigger this would meet my "wants" for a while. It's my hopes it would be a step up from the factory CZ457 I'm shooting now. Thats the mystery/risk that prompted this post. Given my location, being a competitor is tough. Minimum 2 1/2 hours to play in some ARA matches. And I'm to dang old and broke down for the gymnastics involved in rimfire PRS or NRL22.
Thanks for the feedback back gentlemen.
 
Wow... That bolt does not look a couple of months old. Looks like someone took a chisel to the inside and outside extractor slots. Both of the ones I bought are much smoother and well machined.
 
I am in the process of barreling one up now for a friend, I was tempted to buy one but not any more. I anticipate extraction problems with how weak the extractor springs are, if someone has a fix I’d love to know about it.

this is his second action, I had him send back the first one, because of a timing issue. Not sure why but reciever face to bolt face dimension is drastically different on this second one. Also came with a different thickness recoil lug. Had to change the tenon length .090” I will report back when it’s complete.
 
My Lonestar 2500 was made by Stiller. is the Lonestar everyone is talking about here m manufactured by PTG now?
 
Test fired the rifle today, it’s a repeater. Going to try it with a l3i magazine and see if that helps. It fed okay with vudoo polymer magazines but would shave lead off the bullet underneath the one it picks up out of the mag. Il deburr the bolt an see if that helps as well. Had to cut the extractor slots to almost a knife edge to the chamber and now it extracts reliably. Little clunky to run. Also I don’t believe you want to dry fire this action, firing pin seems to hit the breech face. There is around .004/.005 clearance from bolt nose to breech face for .043” headspace.
Barrel was a 1.25” CRB 16t

Accuracy is good with multiple sk ammo types.

Overall I think with some work and magazine modifications it can be decent. However for the money it’s tough to beat the barreled action b14r offering.
 

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Test fired the rifle today, it’s a repeater. Going to try it with a l3i magazine and see if that helps. It fed okay with vudoo polymer magazines but would shave lead off the bullet underneath the one it picks up out of the mag. Il deburr the bolt an see if that helps as well. Had to cut the extractor slots to almost a knife edge to the chamber and now it extracts reliably. Little clunky to run. Also I don’t believe you want to dry fire this action, firing pin seems to hit the breech face. There is around .004/.005 clearance from bolt nose to breech face for .043” headspace.
Barrel was a 1.25” CRB 16t

Accuracy is good with multiple sk ammo types.

Overall I think with some work and magazine modifications it can be decent. However for the money it’s tough to beat the barreled action b14r offering.
That's certainly a good route to take. Have to give it some thought
 
This is from a new ptg lonestar a friend bought a few months back. I my opinion this is unacceptable.
I took my LoneStar bolt apart today and looked at it with the firing pin removed. It looks just like yours, being pretty rough. Not as rough as yours though. I suspect that this area that is visible with the firing pin removed must basically be a no contact, non load bearing area and therefore does not need a fine machine finish. For comparison, I took apart my 1956 Remington 40X bolt apart and it is the same. Evidently they just hog out this area.

I have also had extraction and ejection problems with the LoneStar. I had to replace the loading ramp/ejector piece with a modified 40X load ramp/ejector and that solved that problem. Still had extraction problems though. While I was comparing the Lonestar bolt to the 40X bolt I checked the extractors. The LoneStar extractor springs are WAY weaker than the 40X extractor springs. Also the build quality of the 40X extractors is much better (thicker and more finely finished). The Lonestar extractors look like they were stamped out of a thin piece of steel, leaving a rough edge on one side of each extractor. While I had the extractors out, I stoned them smooth on a whetstone.

TWO months ago I ordered a set of replacement LoneStar extractor springs thinking that new set of springs might help. I got an order confirmation from PTG and nothing else. After a month I sent an email inquiring about status of the order and got nothing. Did that a couple of times and finally after 2 months I get an email apologizing for not answering email (basically too busy) and telling me that they were out of springs and they are on backorder (it seems they could have told me that in the order confirmation email). I ordered some 40X extractor springs from another vendor and had them 2 days later. I am hoping that the 40X springs will fit the LoneStar bolt. For that matter, I wonder if 40X extractors will fit the LoneStar bolt?
Well I will find out after things thaw out a little around here.
 
I took my LoneStar bolt apart today and looked at it with the firing pin removed. It looks just like yours, being pretty rough. Not as rough as yours though. I suspect that this area that is visible with the firing pin removed must basically be a no contact, non load bearing area and therefore does not need a fine machine finish. For comparison, I took apart my 1956 Remington 40X bolt apart and it is the same. Evidently they just hog out this area.

I have also had extraction and ejection problems with the LoneStar. I had to replace the loading ramp/ejector piece with a modified 40X load ramp/ejector and that solved that problem. Still had extraction problems though. While I was comparing the Lonestar bolt to the 40X bolt I checked the extractors. The LoneStar extractor springs are WAY weaker than the 40X extractor springs. Also the build quality of the 40X extractors is much better (thicker and more finely finished). The Lonestar extractors look like they were stamped out of a thin piece of steel, leaving a rough edge on one side of each extractor. While I had the extractors out, I stoned them smooth on a whetstone.

TWO months ago I ordered a set of replacement LoneStar extractor springs thinking that new set of springs might help. I got an order confirmation from PTG and nothing else. After a month I sent an email inquiring about status of the order and got nothing. Did that a couple of times and finally after 2 months I get an email apologizing for not answering email (basically too busy) and telling me that they were out of springs and they are on backorder (it seems they could have told me that in the order confirmation email). I ordered some 40X extractor springs from another vendor and had them 2 days later. I am hoping that the 40X springs will fit the LoneStar bolt. For that matter, I wonder if 40X extractors will fit the LoneStar bolt?
Well I will find out after things thaw out a little around here.
Well, as I said, this is my friend rifle. He just showed me this picture and I thought it should be brought up in this thread since people were asking about them. One thing to remember, though on the inside of that bolt that as the firing pin moves You don’t want any friction in between it and the bolt body as could impair your ignition. As far as I know, he hasn’t any ejection or extraction problems. I’m not sure if 40 X extractors will work though might be worth a try if you could find a pair. On another note, he also had problems. They shipped the action to the wrong guy. Luckily, the guy was honest in enough to get it back to him
 
I took my LoneStar bolt apart today and looked at it with the firing pin removed. It looks just like yours, being pretty rough. Not as rough as yours though. I suspect that this area that is visible with the firing pin removed must basically be a no contact, non load bearing area and therefore does not need a fine machine finish. For comparison, I took apart my 1956 Remington 40X bolt apart and it is the same. Evidently they just hog out this area.

I have also had extraction and ejection problems with the LoneStar. I had to replace the loading ramp/ejector piece with a modified 40X load ramp/ejector and that solved that problem. Still had extraction problems though. While I was comparing the Lonestar bolt to the 40X bolt I checked the extractors. The LoneStar extractor springs are WAY weaker than the 40X extractor springs. Also the build quality of the 40X extractors is much better (thicker and more finely finished). The Lonestar extractors look like they were stamped out of a thin piece of steel, leaving a rough edge on one side of each extractor. While I had the extractors out, I stoned them smooth on a whetstone.

TWO months ago I ordered a set of replacement LoneStar extractor springs thinking that new set of springs might help. I got an order confirmation from PTG and nothing else. After a month I sent an email inquiring about status of the order and got nothing. Did that a couple of times and finally after 2 months I get an email apologizing for not answering email (basically too busy) and telling me that they were out of springs and they are on backorder (it seems they could have told me that in the order confirmation email). I ordered some 40X extractor springs from another vendor and had them 2 days later. I am hoping that the 40X springs will fit the LoneStar bolt. For that matter, I wonder if 40X extractors will fit the LoneStar bolt?
Well I will find out after things thaw out a little around here.
That bolt bore absolutely is a contact area, and , as seen, a large potential ignition issue, any top smith would opine “ unacceptable”, result of shit machine work, needs to be polished out “ properly” for optimal performance since frequent use will do that to some extent over a long time, often with changing ignition. I’d suspect the whole bolt bore looks the same.
Sorry….them’s the facts.
 

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