20VT repeater

[Gabe22BR]

Installing the finial piece-
The SRS arca rail…it’ll be done.. till I get some Bib 40gr coated w/ WS2… then might try to find a load for them…ok got some done

 

[f4l]

Which CZ 527 did you start with? Which bottom metal/magazine is used as the donor?

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Gonna throw this out there-
I’m wanting a repeater in 20VT variants-

I wanting one to feed the case- from a magazine-

I read where one guy used a MDT/Acis mag- I call BS !!! - I have 3 varieties of 223 mags, w/ different lengths of mag lips, none feed the 221FB case- it pops out nose diving into the bottom of the barrel-on a custom SA Rem clone-

I can see the CZ 527 working (221FB version). Guessing that’s why Calhoon used them for his 19 builds…they feed.
Don’t know if a 223 version would or not w/o messing with the magazine

Now, I read where the Howa mini feeds the case.. don’t know if it’s with the factory mag or using a single follower- or some magazine modification required-….

I’ve had 3 Rem 221FB rifles..converted 1 to single shot, sold the others… so I’m not interested in the Rem at all…

I seen where 1 guy used a Howa mini & CZ bottom metal to get one to feed… so I guess anything is possible…

What would be your decision today- given the choices of current, available actions…???

Thanks, Gabe

I have several single shots… just wanting a repeater…so I’ll have to purchase the current setup to work this out…

I had a factory Remington 700 17 Fireball -- the VSF model (BDL). It fed great. I shot p-dogs with it for several years. You can occasionally find these on GunBroker. I later switched to a Kelbly Atlas (BDL style) and couldn't get it to feed from the magazine. I ended up putting a modified single shot follower in it and shoot it that way now. The factory 700 BDL on the fireball cartridges has a different follower, spacer, and the bolt had a different placement of the ejector, from what I recall. These parts are impossible to find -- at least when I tried to several years ago (the mag spacer and follower).

I shoot p-dogs with my Kelbly 17FB and actually prefer the single shot method.

Good luck. Post an update if you figure it out with the detachable mag.

 

[Gabe22BR]

Mag feeds find- you did see video of it feeding???

 

[L.Sherm]

I wish somebody like wyatts would make a Fireball center feed mag box for 700 style actions

 

[tjtjwdad]

When I built my 20VT years ago it was from a 17FB rifle. Never had a feeding issue with it.

 

[Gabe22BR]

Note: 221/222 mag vs the 223/204 mag


The 221FB /222 mag is .132” short in cartridge length- (221/222 mag vs the 223/204 mag) won’t fit the 221FB 222 bottom metal.

From the back of the follower difference is .432” between the 221/222 mag vs 223/204 mag

A spacer block would need to be added & the follower itself would need to be rebent- not sure on the spring…

 

[bhoges]

My first 20VT was a single shot with a BAT SV action. I loved it so much I wanted a repeater. I used a Rem700VS in 223 and purchased a 17 follower and box. It feeds perfect but with Remington being all new not sure you can purchase the parts now.

 

[Gabe22BR]

My first 20VT was a single shot with a BAT SV action. I loved it so much I wanted a repeater. I used a Rem700VS in 223 and purchased a 17 follower and box. It feeds perfect but with Remington being all new not sure you can purchase the parts now.

Didn’t read the very first post did ya?….
I probably sold you that box conversion

 

[bhoges]

Didn’t read the very first post did ya?….
I probably sold you that box conversion

No direct from Remington years ago.

 

[Gabe22BR]

1st Blood !!!
Got it forming brass… now to go make some more brass…

 

[Gabe22BR]

A buddy has a CZ 527-223
We loaded up 4 rds in his mag, staggered them, trying to induce a malfunction. With no luck, it fed fine from the 223 magazine. So now he’s contemplating a 20vt on his action now….

It’s got me “ thinking “ maybe to sell my single shot cooper for another Mag feed CZ..or try a a Howa mini

 

[RegionRat]

It’s got me “ thinking “ maybe to sell my single shot cooper for another Mag feed CZ..or try a a Howa mini

Or... keep the single shot and get a CZ and a Howa!!!
Then, if you don't love one or more of them, let them go.

Life can be short. Carpe Diem

 

[Gabe22BR]

LOL !!!

 

[Fern]

A buddy has a CZ 527-223
We loaded up 4 rds in his mag, staggered them, trying to induce a malfunction. With no luck, it fed fine from the 223 magazine. So now he’s contemplating a 20vt on his action now….

It’s got me “ thinking “ maybe to sell my single shot cooper for another Mag feed CZ..or try a a Howa mini

Well Gabe saw this post and had to go try it. I have a cz lux in 223 I was thinking of turning into a 20vt. I loaded up the mag and every single one cycled perfect. I also staggered them and all 4 times I loaded the mag every single one cycled perfect.
In in the opposite boat though I’m leaning towards a single shot lol

 

[Gabe22BR]

Single shots are dime a dozen and require a 20-50rd box of ammo.. to keep up with..

Repeater, well ya already have 5 in the mag..no extra baggage to carry..

 

[atfdlocal4020]

I have a 221 Fireball AR that runs flawlessly. Mags just need a little modification.

 

[redfisher]

I have a CZ 527 in 221 fireball build by Bullberry rifle works about 20 years ago. Who would be a good smith for a 20vt rebarrel?

 

[Gabe22BR]

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[Gabe22BR]

Not to many folk work on Metric stuff..

 

[redfisher]

Interesting, I have 2 Sako 75 XS actions, they may have called them the (III), one is chambered in TAC20, the other in 223AI, I just put 4 dummy 221 FB rounds in the Sako box mag a they fed flawlessly into the chamber. I know you could buy that same size action in the 85, and potentially the 90 which Euro optic still has inventory.