DaveTooley
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Just a gentle tap, tap, tap.Tap? Like getting your wifes attention or fly swatter speed?
Just a gentle tap, tap, tap.Tap? Like getting your wifes attention or fly swatter speed?
does the firing pin drop if you run the bolt hard/fast?
IMO those triggers are not safe. Exactly how do you do the banging? Maybe I am overlooking something in my trigger safety testing. I require my triggers to not fire with butt thumping on a carped floor, slapping the comb hard with an open hand, with the rifle not on bags, and slamming the bolt as hard as I can without damaging anything, All of my benchrest triggers will pass these tests. From what I read, fellows may set their sear engagements too small in pursuit of lightness, and to deal with a little creep. For me a little smooth, predictable creep is not an issue. I would rather have that and reliability than be on the edge of an AD.How safe should a trigger be from impact? I've got a trigger (two actually, in two different actions) - If I give the stock/action a whack with a little hammer, it'll drop the pin.
This is a particular model of a trigger... other models from the same maker don't have this problem.
^^^^^^I can't emphasize strongly enough about the comments on 'safe for the application'.
The problem is the potential results [death or injury] make even the slightest possible, controllable event unacceptable.
I have seen rifles that if you slam the butt stock onto to a carpeted floor they will not release the firing pin but a hard strike on the receiver with a wooden mallet will drop the firing pin.IMO those triggers are not safe. Exactly how do you do the banging? Maybe I am overlooking something in my trigger safety testing. I require my triggers to not fire with butt thumping on a carped floor, slapping the comb hard with an open hand, with the rifle not on bags, and slamming the bolt as hard as I can without damaging anything, All of my benchrest triggers will pass these tests. From what I read, fellows may set their sear engagements too small in pursuit of lightness, and to deal with a little creep. For me a little smooth, predictable creep is not an issue. I would rather have that and reliability than be on the edge of an AD.
This is one reason I dont even use or rely on a safety^^^^^^
This.
Short Range Benchrest Shooters use triggers that let off with as little as 3/4 ounce.
However, at Matches, you are not allowed to have a bolt or a live round in the rifle until the command of “insert bolts, commence fire” is given.
If a shooter has a problem with a trigger releasing before he is ready for it to, that is his problem.
A number of years ago, we had a discussion about the legality of a shooter using a rifle with out a trigger guard. The ruling was, the only unsafe thing about it was if he accidentally hit the trigger when the command was given, that was his problem.
I don't think the guy knows nor do I think that it could actually be accurately weighed. It had to be something less than an ounce. I could not perceive touching the trigger shoe before it released. Too light and not at all safe in my opinion.Wow, I've not felt a trigger that I couldnt feel the shoe first before applying pressure
even 1.5 ounces has plenty of resistance for myself to know I am touching something before applying pressure to it.
the weight of 2 quarters is about a 1.5oz trigger and is easily felt in your hand or on your finger.
What weight trigger was that you couldnt feel it before it going off?
Sounds like the weight of a dime
(I've not felt a 0.6oz Flavio BTW, likely never will neither, they're cool and all, just not for me )
I don't think your video shows a safe trigger. But that's me. You made it release without pulling the trigger. Not safe. Looks like a nice rifle though!
Each tap is a little harder. I can smash the ass of the gun into the floor as hard as I want and it's not going anywhere. Only the sharp blow of the hammer will drop the pin.
Aaron, how much cock on close does it have?
Each tap is a little harder. I can smash the ass of the gun into the floor as hard as I want and it's not going anywhere. Only the sharp blow of the hammer will drop the pin.
Aaron, how much cock on close does it have?