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Electric Cars -- anyone own one?

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Now my view is changing. Given that the duplicitous nature of the left is as clear as it has ever been, I'm thinking that as they trade their Teslas for Lincoln Navigators I might be able to pick up one of their discarded Teslas sedans cheap for a run around town car. If I find one I'll add the obligatory Trump, Vance and Musk stickers. I'd really like to buy a Tesla truck but it's out of my price range.
What a pity we can't buy BYD here. Now those guys know how to build a state of the art car.
 
And that is the bottom line. Musk was one of the gods of the left prior to his purchase of Twitter. Now the very products they advocated for (Tesla products that is) and the leader in the market is the enemy. Hypocrisy is perhaps far to kind of a description for the current behavior. A friend of mine who is religious said he thinks god pulled a veil over their eye's and they can no longer see the truth. My retort as someone who is not religious was that god simply shorted them on brains.

I have not been a fan of electric vehicles in the past. Partially due to the sanctimonious (and now duplicitous) nature of the advocates but also because I thought that they are putting the cart before the horse. In government coercing people to buy them at some local, state and at the federal level when we don't have the infrastructure or electrical generation capacity to support the dictates of the Biden administration. My feeling has been that those who advocated the most lived in areas with the highest kilowatt per hour prices and the least ability to produce the energy they consume. If they wanted to flush their money down the toilet, it only means cheaper gas for me so I actually encouraged EV ownership.

Now my view is changing. Given that the duplicitous nature of the left is as clear as it has ever been, I'm thinking that as they trade their Teslas for Lincoln Navigators I might be able to pick up one of their discarded Teslas sedans cheap for a run around town car. If I find one I'll add the obligatory Trump, Vance and Musk stickers. I'd really like to buy a Tesla truck but it's out of my price range.
You feel they are, putting the cart before the horse. You may feel that way, but that is how it's done. When the gas powered cars were being developed, there were not super highways to drive on, nor was there gas stations located on most street corners. Electricity in general was also not available to every home for many years.
While some people liked their Tesla cars, you're one of the few who says they would like one of the trucks. Personally, I think it is the ugliest truck i've ever seen. It vaguely reminds me of the "Back to the Future" car from the 1980's only dumber looking.
 
What a pity we can't buy BYD here. Now those guys know how to build a state of the art car.
So I would compare BYD to Tesla in the same way as I would compare Ruger American rifles to a Browning X Bolt. Both are perfectly serviceable and functional. One is built with price being a strong consideration and the other, not so much. Couple that with the fact that BYD is built with child slave labor like all their other products and one would have to be lacking in morals to buy one.
 
You feel they are, putting the cart before the horse. You may feel that way, but that is how it's done. When the gas powered cars were being developed, there were not super highways to drive on, nor was there gas stations located on most street corners. Electricity in general was also not available to every home for many years.
While some people liked their Tesla cars, you're one of the few who says they would like one of the trucks. Personally, I think it is the ugliest truck i've ever seen. It vaguely reminds me of the "Back to the Future" car from the 1980's only dumber looking.
When the internal combustion engine was developed most continued to ride horses for a very long time. Only the wealthy could afford cars and it was the wealthy who built the infrastructure they needed. If you are wealthy then you should build the infrastructure you need to accommodate your preferences. Don't ask others to do it for you.
 
You feel they are, putting the cart before the horse. You may feel that way, but that is how it's done. When the gas powered cars were being developed, there were not super highways to drive on, nor was there gas stations located on most street corners. Electricity in general was also not available to every home for many years.
While some people liked their Tesla cars, you're one of the few who says they would like one of the trucks. Personally, I think it is the ugliest truck i've ever seen. It vaguely reminds me of the "Back to the Future" car from the 1980's only dumber looking.
I agree about the look of the truck, but it sells. I see them here in North Florida on the road often.
 
You feel they are, putting the cart before the horse. You may feel that way, but that is how it's done. When the gas powered cars were being developed, there were not super highways to drive on, nor was there gas stations located on most street corners. Electricity in general was also not available to every home for many years.
While some people liked their Tesla cars, you're one of the few who says they would like one of the trucks. Personally, I think it is the ugliest truck i've ever seen. It vaguely reminds me of the "Back to the Future" car from the 1980's only dumber looking.
I agree about the look of the truck, but it sells. I see them here in North Florida on the road often.

If you’re ugly you better be tough
 
I’m pretty sure the Douche Panzers are not bullet proof. 1.8mm stainless? Bullet proof?
The way that’s worded it would be just as true or false as using “1.8mm of bullet proof AR500 steel”. Right steel, wrong thickness. But there’s no denying it did pretty well against the ballistic of choice in the video.;):p
 
When the internal combustion engine was developed most continued to ride horses for a very long time. Only the wealthy could afford cars and it was the wealthy who built the infrastructure they needed. If you are wealthy then you should build the infrastructure you need to accommodate your preferences. Don't ask others to do it for you.
Initially, there were no roads. There were dirt paths for wagons and horses. The City streets were also dirt until cars became more common and then they were stones, followed by paved streets. Those were paid for by the communities. The original gas station was the local hardware store. Anything thing with the magnitude of introducing a new form of transportation or energy is always going to need to be a collaboration of private and government. Not everyone drives, flies . takes the train or a bus, but yet we all pay a portion for each.
 
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The US is getting left in the dust


BYD’s stock jumped 4 per cent to HK$401.40 ($51.66) in Hong Kong, taking its gain to 85 per cent over the past 12 months.

Wang, the company’s billionaire founder, said on Monday the Shenzhen group’s new charging system for BYD’s own EV batteries could add around 470km in range in five minutes.

The claim implies that BYD has nudged ahead of rivals such as Tesla and Mercedes-Benz in fast-charging technology, although the new system is contingent on several prerequisites, including sufficient voltage at charging stations.

There is rising competition among EV and battery makers to deploy faster charging infrastructure, in part to help deal with anxiety among consumers over the driving range and charging speed of EVs compared with traditional internal combustion engine cars. BYD initially plans to install around 4,000 chargers to support the new fast-charging technology.

China is expected to put in about 460,000 new public EV chargers this year, accounting for about two-thirds globally, and taking cumulative units to about 2.1mn, according to Chris Liu, a Shanghai-based senior analyst at the consultancy Omdia.

BYD added that two of its popular sports utility models, both priced under $40,000 in China, would be equipped with the new ultrafast charging system from April.

(source: today's Financial Times)
Looking forward to some nice videos of burning BYDs, well at least hopefully some videos make it out.
 
Initially, there were no roads. There were dirt paths for wagons and horses. The City streets were also dirt until cars became more common and then they were stones, followed by paved streets. Those were paid for by the communities. The original gas station was the local hardware store. Anything thing with the magnitude of introducing a new form of transportation or energy is always going to need to be a collaboration of private and government. Not everyone drives, flies . takes the train or a bus, but yet we all pay a portion for each.
The dirt paths were the roads. The roads in cities were built for horses after people got tired of mud mixed with horse shit. I'm not willing to pay for it so you'll need to carry your own electrical production system. Tow a 65kw generator behind your electric car and never want for a charging station. Environmental posers are burning those down and trading their Teslas for Lincoln Navagators anyway.
 
I've been to the BYD factory near Qongqing when I was "in".

not only no, but f no...

anyone who thinks they're the bee's knees needs to lay off the K-pop dramas on Netflix
 
Couple that with the fact that BYD is built with child slave labor like all their other products and one would have to be lacking in morals to buy one.
Fake news. Largely robotics. Fun fact: China installed over half the world's new robots in 2023. (The US was a very very distant third place, a bronze medal at least, behind them and Japan.)
 
The dirt paths were the roads. The roads in cities were built for horses after people got tired of mud mixed with horse shit. ...
I remember reading the book "The Good Old Days - They were Terrible". The 1st chapter enumerated the number of horses in New York City around 1900, the average # pounds of horse poop per animal and all the disgusting effects of this immense quantity of waste sitting in the streets. The gasoline-powered automobile was a huge environmental improvement.
 
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