Best 22-250 brass? Norma??

[bluesako]

hi guys ive shot a 22-250, for nigh on 40 years here in the uk, and for most of that time, ive used norma brass you cant beat it i have used other brass but i do like norma dave

 

[bozo699]

I have sworn by Federal nickel brass from way back, and I still think it's the best I have ever shot. I went through 2 full seasons of hunter benchrest on my original 25 pieces of that brass and it was as good at the end as it was in the beginning. Of course, I was not running it through a FL die either. I would love to find some of that for this gun, but like so many other components, it's hard to find. I actually tried some nickel Remington brass in my Tikka thinking that perhaps it had changed, and that maybe the plating would help, but what I found was that I could hardly even read the head stamp after one firing!!

I absolutely HATE nickel brass!…. Good way to ruin a expensive set of dies and I also HATE Remington brass but if you love it I have a box full of new old Nickel Remington 22-250 brass- however much I ff for my fast twist 22-250 AI
I’ll trade you straight across for Winchester brass if you want it. There’s somewhere between 250 and 500 pieces I would have to see as I boxed the nasty crap up years ago but I know right where it is
Wayne

 

[Crumster]

Wayne,
All this time I thought there was hope for you lol. I got to wondering how it could be that you have had such tough luck with nickel brass. Then I reminded myself that A. The nickel brass I spoke of never even knew what even dust was, much less real-world dirt that could be abrasive. and B. It was never run through a full length die, just a neck sizer/decapper using an arbor press.
No, deal on the Remington haha. As I said, after one firing, it was so soft the pressure just about made the lettering on the case head unreadable. But if you know where there's some of that Federal Nickel Match, I'd be real pleased to know about it.

 

[bozo699]

Wayne,
All this time I thought there was hope for you lol. I got to wondering how it could be that you have had such tough luck with nickel brass. Then I reminded myself that A. The nickel brass I spoke of never even knew what even dust was, much less real-world dirt that could be abrasive. and B. It was never run through a full length die, just a neck sizer/decapper using an arbor press.
No, deal on the Remington haha. As I said, after one firing, it was so soft the pressure just about made the lettering on the case head unreadable. But if you know where there's some of that Federal Nickel Match, I'd be real pleased to know about it.

You have to remember, I worked for ATK for several years, I spent a lot of time in plating, I am very familiar with nickel brass!… for pistols it’s ok , I would never neck size anything other than forming maybe. I did at least get to use the plating tanks to plate other things besides brass lol. Bottle neck cartridges never……..
Wayne

 

[Crumster]

I did at least get to use the plating tanks to plate other things besides brass lol. Bottle neck cartridges never……..

Hmmm, the wheels on your hot rods always looked good right.
I had one big advantage through those benchrest wars.....I live ten minutes from L.E. Wilson. Eat yer' heart out.

 

[bozo699]

Hmmm, the wheels on your hot rods always looked good right.
I had one big advantage through those benchrest wars.....I live ten minutes from L.E. Wilson. Eat yer' heart out.

ATK is a 10 minute drive for me and only 4 hours to Cashmere
Wayne

 

[806guns]

Criterion stainless match, 24” varmint contour, 1 in 12 twist, Savage small shank. Jim stated 12-20 week lead time. I’d love to have it right now, so I’m not just making this up.

I bet @urbanrifleman could of spun you up one.

 

[urbanrifleman]

I bet @urbanrifleman could of spun you up one.

Yes. I have those. Three weeks.

 

[Majday]

ATK is a 10 minute drive for me and only 4 hours to Cashmere
Wayne

It's too bad they don't have a store to visit and purchase supplies. Blems or anything for customers that I know of at ATK

 

[Kracken McGraw]

https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/76960
Good brass, and you don’t have to load it the first time.

 

[bozo699]

It's too bad they don't have a store to visit and purchase supplies. Blems or anything for customers that I know of at ATK

No employees can but not to the public. I agree it would be nice.
Wayne

 

[7br]

I bet @urbanrifleman could of spun you up one.

Yes. I have those. Three weeks.

And there are so many here who verify urbanrifleman’s skill and the quality of his products, but the Northland barrel is already ordered and paid for. Something to keep in mind though, for any future projects. Thanks

 

[Crumster]

So how about Norma brass?

 

[Rubberduckie]

So how about Norma brass?

It's good stuff. I've bought from raven rocks precision in the past.

 

[Crumster]

It's good stuff. I've bought from raven rocks precision in the past.

Seems to me I bought some in the past that didn't agree with my methods (Load to max as a starting point) lol.

 

[bozo699]

Seems to me I bought some in the past that didn't agree with my methods (Load to max as a starting point) lol.

Norma is good brass but it’s soft!… if you hit it hard the primer pockets won’t last long.
Wayne

 

[Zero333]

I've been very lucky with Winchester Brass when it comes to common cartridges like 223r, 243w, 7mm08 & 308w.

I also have Lapua brass for the cartridges I' mentioned... and I still choose Winchester because of how long it lasts and because I'm not a BR competitor I've not seen any difference in accuracy between Winchester and Lapua brass.

 

[jxb]

Norma is good brass but it’s soft!… if you hit it hard the primer pockets won’t last long.
Wayne

I have shot Norma in my Swifts for decades at or near max and never had an issue with primer pockets on them. Now I anneal but until recently I didn't and all my failures were neck/shoulder where I had headspace set correctly (where I didn't, impending case head separation was an issue after xx reloads). What I love about Norma is their neck shoulder seems more elastic than others and translated into far more reloads per case than any of the others. This of course isn't comparing to high-end like Lapua.

I can't speak to 22-250 as I don't have any Norma for that, but if I was buying new for it Norma would be my choice for varminting. Maybe they had some bad lots with soft bases, wouldn't be the first or last manufacturer to have that problem, it happens.

 

[freebird22/250]

Anybody use or like Nosler brass?

 

[bozo699]

I have shot Norma in my Swifts for decades at or near max and never had an issue with primer pockets on them. Now I anneal but until recently I didn't and all my failures were neck/shoulder where I had headspace set correctly (where I didn't, impending case head separation was an issue after xx reloads). What I love about Norma is their neck shoulder seems more elastic than others and translated into far more reloads per case than any of the others. This of course isn't comparing to high-end like Lapua.

I can't speak to 22-250 as I don't have any Norma for that, but if I was buying new for it Norma would be my choice for varminting. Maybe they had some bad lots with soft bases, wouldn't be the first or last manufacturer to have that problem, it happens.

That says a lot because swifts are hard on brass. Yes I agree it’s very good brass, I heard they made the good Nosler brass I had , not sure who made the bad Nosler I had. I had 6xc Norma that held up well but my .300wm was tough on it but I was hammering it hard as that’s where it shot the best, the brass was very uniform and sized well as you stated I just lost the primer pockets in a few loadings but I don’t fault the brass however my RWS brass in .300wm has held up much better.
Wayne