Electric Cars -- anyone own one?
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It’s too bad so many people are believing the talking points of the Koch brothers rather than common sense.
Anyone who drives a lot will make the decision to get a hybrid if available just because the total cost of ownership is lower per mile with a hybrid. We’re halfway through one and will replace it with another.
Many of our friends are driving Teslas and this fear mongering of the energy grid being over worked doesn‘t jive with common sense - electric cars primarily charge at night when demand is lowest - there’s a lot of extra capacity.
Charging stations are privately owned - I know a marketing manager for one maker of charging stations and it’s no different from a vending machine business from installing them to revenue sharing with the land owner - nothing about it is tied to state governments. Don’t believe everything on news max.
As for power grids in general being over stressed, we’ve seen exactly what can happen here locally in northern Nevada. The sky was falling and the grid will never support the huge number of new warehouses - a new solar farm was put up with private funds and the grid now has enough capacity and the sky didn’t fall and the tax payers in New York aren’t paying for it.
Electricity is a commodity just like gasoline - the billionaires controlling the oil companies want to convince average consumers that it’s some kind of conspiracy because that helps them, not you.
Every home in the country has multiple lithium ion batteries in phones, laptops and many appliances - those would burn your house down just as fast as a car battery if the technology wasn’t safe. Cheap lithium ion batteries and chargers like are used in cheap electric bikes are very unsafe, but the Koch brothers want you to believe every lithium ion battery in a car is going to kill you.
Use common sense when deciding who to believe, not just what comes out of Joe Rogan’s mouth.
Anyone who drives a lot will make the decision to get a hybrid if available just because the total cost of ownership is lower per mile with a hybrid. We’re halfway through one and will replace it with another.
Many of our friends are driving Teslas and this fear mongering of the energy grid being over worked doesn‘t jive with common sense - electric cars primarily charge at night when demand is lowest - there’s a lot of extra capacity.
Charging stations are privately owned - I know a marketing manager for one maker of charging stations and it’s no different from a vending machine business from installing them to revenue sharing with the land owner - nothing about it is tied to state governments. Don’t believe everything on news max.
As for power grids in general being over stressed, we’ve seen exactly what can happen here locally in northern Nevada. The sky was falling and the grid will never support the huge number of new warehouses - a new solar farm was put up with private funds and the grid now has enough capacity and the sky didn’t fall and the tax payers in New York aren’t paying for it.
Electricity is a commodity just like gasoline - the billionaires controlling the oil companies want to convince average consumers that it’s some kind of conspiracy because that helps them, not you.
Every home in the country has multiple lithium ion batteries in phones, laptops and many appliances - those would burn your house down just as fast as a car battery if the technology wasn’t safe. Cheap lithium ion batteries and chargers like are used in cheap electric bikes are very unsafe, but the Koch brothers want you to believe every lithium ion battery in a car is going to kill you.
Use common sense when deciding who to believe, not just what comes out of Joe Rogan’s mouth.
NorCalMikie
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Driving a Hybrid is different than an EV.
You run out of battery in a hybrid and you still have gas.
You run out of battery in an EV and you're SOL!! ($$$$)
Replacement batteries for an EV are how much???
You run out of battery in a hybrid and you still have gas.
You run out of battery in an EV and you're SOL!! ($$$$)
Replacement batteries for an EV are how much???
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danny
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It is in our built in human nature to be doubtful and fearful of things new or different to us. It is a real shame that the politicians and people that make a living spreading bs to make money are politizing the info to gain wealth or political advantage. The move away away from dependance on fossil fuels will take time and it won't be painless. It will take a while to get it right.
The last time we heard that the world was going to end and we would all die in a computer induced firefight with our neighbors over enough food to survive, was Y2K. I am wondering if this is going to be just as anticlimactic as that? I live in an area that is 16 to 18 feet above sea level, I was supposed to be dog paddling to keep from drowning 5 years ago. I think that the cure that is being proposed is far worse that problem.
. . . From solar farms?
rwj
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What is the cost to replace the battery in a hybrid? That number needs to be included in the total cost of ownership. If not paid by the original owner, a well informed used car buyer will lower their offer amount accordingly.
GotRDid
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NorCalMikie
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I would love to buy an electric hot rod car but the cost of such a toy is beyond my spending limits for a toy. North Dakota is not an electric vehicle friendly state. Six months of colder weather inhibits the usage to much. If I was stuck living in hell( big city in hot climate) I could see the use of one.
if you make your own money buy what you wish but don’t try to shove it down my throat. Edk
if you make your own money buy what you wish but don’t try to shove it down my throat. Edk
That‘s a good to question to ask. Rather than one huge battery, they are broken down into a number of battery banks that vary by the year and model. For simplicity sake, let’s say there are two dozen. Over time some batteries weaken more than others - the car diagnostic system monitors the individual banks and if a bank is too far out it throws a code. Only the poorly performing bank needs to be replaced. An entire new battery with all the banks will be something like $7k to $10k, and a single bank may be $700 to $500. There are also aftermarket suppliers that are about half price.
The cost of a new battery isnt paid to a new buyer any more than the cost of a gasoline engine would be.
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