First Look at the Ingenuity Precision Powder System
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memilanuk
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Rick300
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With the automated bullet seater!
I put my order in last night - #27061
akh223
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Earliest reported pre order number I have seen is 26,997.
I also know a preorder for the trickler only placed in November was 26,850ish. I have to assume some preordered the wrong thing (trickler only), and will want to change their order once the time to pay comes.
Also, I bet some will cancel their preorders by the time they are ready. The fervor will die down, or people will forget and those x-mas bills will get some people.
Tim Singleton
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My order 27170
Not sure what number they started the tickets
If at zero then $27,000,000 in orders that quick is amazing
Most likely didnt start at zero
Not sure what number they started the tickets
If at zero then $27,000,000 in orders that quick is amazing
Most likely didnt start at zero
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I am a pre 27k
akh223
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How pre? Lower than 26,996?
akh223
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“I also know a preorder for the trickler only placed in November was 26,850ish”
I got probably the first 2. The first 25ish orders were pretty much myself and a bunch of friends, we all compared order numbers. Many of us bought more than 1. So, I would say anything between 269xx-270xx is within us
jxb
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Maybe they did, maybe not. I seriously considered just getting the trickler only and hand throw then trickle up. That would work fine and much less costly, but I look at it like this... I used to be way into photography and never gave a second thought to dropping thousands on a lens and I had lots of lenses. So the $1k price is more about putting the cost in context, you can afford the hobby or not and of course in wildly varying degrees from budget shooter to unlimited funds. I'm lucky enough that I only have a couple hobbies which allows me to focus extra funds on just those.
on the order numbers, yeah it appears that's his overall orders. I was wondering if that was the case or he simply started these at 27000, but apparently his order numbers were just nearing 27k when this preorder opened.
jxb
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Wonderful, that means you all are tasked with finding any/all of the issues that might not have been found by the testers. ;-)
Yes, and there are liable to be issues too, because it appears that only “in the know” people have tested it thus far
The true testing begins when the illiterates, average Joe Schmoe, and Billy Bob and Bubba get their mitts on it
The true testing begins when the illiterates, average Joe Schmoe, and Billy Bob and Bubba get their mitts on it
jxb
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There's also the fact that many of the folks that use these are competitive shooters, but some of us are not.
I am not, but since I wanted more precision I got a better scale then of course because I shoot a lot of volume as well I wanted a more automated solution to integrate with it (not a progressive). So for example I use a lot of ball powders for those .224 many of which are not on his list. The characteristics of course are quite different than spherical powders and my loading needs/habits are likely slightly different than competitive shooters. An example is I have lots of different calibers and thus lots of different powders I regularly use. Ease of switching between powders, disks that work with each, and consistent saved profiles is what I need in addition to speed and precision.
akh223
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Perfect example of why I asked that there be more than 10 presets to save powders in. I think I have 14 I may choose to use at any point.
On the flip side, some guys will load 16+ lbs of a single powder thru the thing and never swap a disc or change the calibration. But the system needs ti handle both effectively.
JMayo
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Order #27071 here ... Maybe I'll see one before season starts in March. I'm gonna be loading 400 weekly through Sept ....
I couldn't/can't take a hit on my sartorius and buy an a&d v4. So I'm stoked with a system using what I've got. Cost seems to be the same either way i reckon.
I don't mind dropping in my pan then weighing and trickle up then tap tap tap tap into the case ...... But it's getting old & boring.
With this and an extra cup it'll be waiting on me with the correct amount.
I couldn't/can't take a hit on my sartorius and buy an a&d v4. So I'm stoked with a system using what I've got. Cost seems to be the same either way i reckon.
I don't mind dropping in my pan then weighing and trickle up then tap tap tap tap into the case ...... But it's getting old & boring.
With this and an extra cup it'll be waiting on me with the correct amount.
jxb
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yeah I'd need lots more as for example say I have 12 rifles, each gets their own unique load, but I might test 2 or more powders with each rifle to find what it likes. I'd rather they are stored in the unit than having to keep track in a document. That said, a want would be the ability to export configs for backup purposes. Being able to import them is not as important but a nice to have so I wouldn't need to input them manually if for example a unit failed and I needed a replacement. Also I'm not a fan of apps, so this unit being able to operate with or without an app is nice. There might be cases where I might want to use the app, but 99% of the time I just want to use the keypad. Apps are inherently insecure, especially over time and if you think your phone is secure, well... anyhow stand alone use is what I'm interested in and hopefully he never drops that or requires app use.
For the ball powders, the supertricker really can’t be beat. But for the stick powders, there are sticking points lol.
I almost kept my supertricker to use for ball powders but, more than having money tied up in multiple machines, there is the issue of space on the bench and maintenance. They’re updating that thing every month and I don’t want to fire it up for varmint season and have to dick around with it updating it and trying to remember how to use it. Because features and simplicity/ease of use are conducting a protracted battle of attrition against each other in that machine
I almost kept my supertricker to use for ball powders but, more than having money tied up in multiple machines, there is the issue of space on the bench and maintenance. They’re updating that thing every month and I don’t want to fire it up for varmint season and have to dick around with it updating it and trying to remember how to use it. Because features and simplicity/ease of use are conducting a protracted battle of attrition against each other in that machine
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