30BR ?

[troupe]

I am thinking of having a 30BR done. I have a single shot 700 action and a great looking walnut stock. Before I would order a barrel for the project, I feel that I need to find some brass first. 30BR shooter's out there, would I get by with 100 pieces or would I need more and where to find it? I do not plan on competing with it, but am interested in the extreme accuracy that the round offers.

All suggestions would be appreciated from this great forum and it's member. 30BR sounds like a lot of fun.

Thanks and God Bless,

Tommy Roupe

 

[jimmymac]

100 pieces of brass would be a good start. Lapua 6BR will be hard to find. Guys have been talking up the 6BR Peterson brass but I’ve never used any.

 

[JB10]

I would get at least 300 if it were me

 

[Bill Norris]

A 30BR would be lots of fun. Hard to beat it for ease of load development and tuning. 6BR Lapua brass is hard to come by right now but if you can find some100 pcs. will be good. If not, Peterson is my second choice and not bad at all but I doubt you will get as many firings on it as Lapua. One long-time BR shooter and often a winner said he had well over 7000 rds. on his barrel and shot the same Lapua brass to make that happen. He was one of the fathers of the 30BR. I have some Lapua brass with 14 firings on it with no signs of it giving up. Primer pockets are still tight and I have not lost one piece of it so far. I recently purchased some Peterson to try out and just getting started with loading them so at some point down the road I will be able to give some feed back. Shot this load on Sat. with the Peterson brass without my tuner as I was working up the load.

118 BIBS FB HP **HBN COATED 1.588 O M 2.350 COL T/L B S .260 B C .330
POWDER H-4198 34.2 GR. PRIMER CCI BR-4 .323 BUSHING
SEATED @ 1.603 O M 2.365 COL .015 JAM
.240 12-SHOT GP. 72 DEG. 65% REL/HUM 10/07/23

 

[jimmymac]

I’m still shooting matches with the same 300 pieces I bought in 2019. With a die that is well matched to your chamber you won’t be over working the brass and it will last for many firings.

 

[FNSafari]

One way of ironing out the brass just forward of the .200" from the case head area is to run them into a .45ACP carbide die. I ran a particularly great Shilen select barrel over 6K with 150 cases.

Right now I would try ALPHA brass in 6BR. The external measurements are very very close to LAPUA. A friend says the internal capacity is a bit less (suggesting thicker brass) but he swears by it. ALPHA uses a .080" flash hole small rifle primer. I have some to try, but haven't yet. Keep your eyes peeled for LAPUA 6BR brass as it turns up here in the classifieds.

 

[jimmymac]

One way of ironing out the brass just forward of the .200" from the case head area is to run them into a .45ACP carbide die. I ran a particularly great Shilen select barrel over 6K with 150 cases.

Right now I would try ALPHA brass in 6BR. The external measurements are very very close to LAPUA. A friend says the internal capacity is a bit less (suggesting thicker brass) but he swears by it. ALPHA uses a .080" flash hole small rifle primer. I have some to try, but haven't yet. Keep your eyes peeled for LAPUA 6BR brass as it turns up here in the classifieds.

I've seen some reports of the Alpha brass getting loose primer pockets after just a few firings. Wonder if this is based in fact or more internet keyboard commando shit?

 

[Bill Norris]

I've seen some reports of the Alpha brass getting loose primer pockets after just a few firings. Wonder if this is based in fact or more internet keyboard commando shit?

Tried the Alpha in my 260AI and was not happy with it at all. Developed pressure way ahead of Lapua brass and simply was not able to get up to the velocity as with the Lapua. However the 6BR brass may be different.

 

[Keefe300]

I've seen some reports of the Alpha brass getting loose primer pockets after just a few firings. Wonder if this is based in fact or more internet keyboard commando shit?

It will depend on the reamer specs. If using the Robinet reamer specs and Alpha brass you will be unhappy. Alpha measures small at the 200 line like 0.467-0.468ish and the common reamer specs are around 0.472. This will equal sticky bolt and loose primers in my experience.

So before you jump head long into Alpha take some measurements and read some prints.

I use and am happy with Alpha brass, but my reamers are specked small at the 200 line to use Alpha. Also the larger flash hole on Alpha doesn’t give me any heartburn either.

 

[troupe]

Can't give enough thanks for this info, I am being a sponge and absorbing all of this great info. I want to shoot those little groups. Keep the info coming.

 

[Bill Norris]

Can't give enough thanks for this info, I am being a sponge and absorbing all of this great info. I want to shoot those little groups. Keep the info coming.

The 30BR is probably the easiest cartridge I ever hand loaded for. Something that the fathers of the round noted was that it differed greatly from the 6PPC in that it did not require loading at the match. They stated it was easy enough just to load it at home and go shoot the match. In the testing I have done with two different barrels (one a BR heavy varmint 1 - 17 Tw. and the other a Hunter # 4 taper 1 -15 Tw. I have found it to be a fantastic cartridge to play with and learn about. Both of mine are built by (WSMNUT) here on the forum and reamed with the same reamer so I could interchange the brass but I keep them separate. Measuring the brass there is no difference between the fired brass from them. The rifles were built probably over a year apart so kudos to Zack for his extreme measuring and setting up the lathe on both barrels. This is the kind of quality work and dedication to building a great rifle one can expect from Old Dominion Custom Rifles.

 

[nakneker]

I am thinking of having a 30BR done. I have a single shot 700 action and a great looking walnut stock. Before I would order a barrel for the project, I feel that I need to find some brass first. 30BR shooter's out there, would I get by with 100 pieces or would I need more and where to find it? I do not plan on competing with it, but am interested in the extreme accuracy that the round offers.

Sounds like you’re wanting to build a target rifle, shoot small groups and just have some fun. 30BR would be a good cartridge to do that. I recently had one built, different purpose, light barreled vermin rifle. It has #3 Hawk Hill barrel and shoots anything I’ve tried extremely well. I’m shooting different bullets, more hunting type of bullets. My rifle shoots the 125gr TGKs into one hole groups. It’s a fun round. Zack at Old Dominion built the rifle, great guy to work. I am using Lapua brass. Good luck in your endeavor!

 

[troupe]

I am getting excited about it. I really do appreciate all of the input. Makes me want it know. I will round up the parts. I have located some 7BR brass. Still looking for Lapua brass for the 30BR. I have a very nice Rem. 700 single shot action, a Jewell, and a custom Bastogne 40X stock. I guess I will need a 17 twist HV contour, maybe a Brux, Kreiger, or Bartlein.

 

[Bill Norris]

Yea the 17 works good with bullet weights from 110 to 125 gr. The most accurate I have found for my bench rifle is the 118 gr. Bibs.

 

[jimmymac]

I am getting excited about it. I really do appreciate all of the input. Makes me want it know. I will round up the parts. I have located some 7BR brass. Still looking for Lapua brass for the 30BR. I have a very nice Rem. 700 single shot action, a Jewell, and a custom Bastogne 40X stock. I guess I will need a 17 twist HV contour, maybe a Brux, Kreiger, or Bartlein.

Keep an eye on the classifieds for Lapua brass. It pops up from time to time but you better be quick.

 

[Dolomite]

This is a great thread as I was also looking into the 30br.

Anyone have an idea of how long the barrel wait time is for a 17 twist? Bartlien, Kreiger, Hawk Hill (not taking barrel orders, sold off the mfg)

Which smith will be good to chamber up a Robinet V2 30 br prefit? What is that estimated time frame?

Custom bullets anyone know what the time frame is on the 30 cal bullets? Barts, BIB etc

What band of dies is everyone using? Whidden or SAC or fclass products or Harrels? I know whidden takes a couple months for a custom die set after getting 3x fired brass or actual reamer print.

Aside from the the powder choice H4198 LT30 or VV130, any other powder choices work? Those 3 are impossible to get locally not because of availability but the local shops do not order those powders.

I have 100 Lapua 6Br brass to start with.

Sorry for all the questions just wondering about the time frame to put everything together based on todays issues of short supply. I was thinking well over 12 months for barrel and smith work but I could be way off target.

 

[AlNyhus]

This is a great thread as I was also looking into the 30br.

Anyone have an idea of how long the barrel wait time is for a 17 twist? Bartlien, Kreiger, Hawk Hill (not taking barrel orders, sold off the mfg)

Which smith will be good to chamber up a Robinet V2 30 br prefit? What is that estimated time frame?

Custom bullets anyone know what the time frame is on the 30 cal bullets? Barts, BIB etc

What band of dies is everyone using? Whidden or SAC or fclass products or Harrels? I know whidden takes a couple months for a custom die set after getting 3x fired brass or actual reamer print.

Aside from the the powder choice H4198 LT30 or VV133 or VV130, any other powder choices work? Those 3 are impossible to get locally not because of availability but the local shops do not order those powders.

I have 100 Lapua 6Br brass to start with.

Sorry for all the questions just wondering about the time frame to put everything together based on todays issues of short supply. I was thinking well over 12 months for barrel and smith work but I could be way off target.

What action are you using? -Al

 

[Dolomite]

What action are you using? -Al

a terminus zeus QC. I have the Tennon prints for prefit barrels.

 

[newbieshooter]

This is a great thread as I was also looking into the 30br.

Anyone have an idea of how long the barrel wait time is for a 17 twist? Bartlien, Kreiger, Hawk Hill (not taking barrel orders, sold off the mfg)

Which smith will be good to chamber up a Robinet V2 30 br prefit? What is that estimated time frame?

Custom bullets anyone know what the time frame is on the 30 cal bullets? Barts, BIB etc

What band of dies is everyone using? Whidden or SAC or fclass products or Harrels? I know whidden takes a couple months for a custom die set after getting 3x fired brass or actual reamer print.

Aside from the the powder choice H4198 LT30 or VV133 or VV130, any other powder choices work? Those 3 are impossible to get locally not because of availability but the local shops do not order those powders.

I have 100 Lapua 6Br brass to start with.

Sorry for all the questions just wondering about the time frame to put everything together based on todays issues of short supply. I was thinking well over 12 months for barrel and smith work but I could be way off target.

17 twist Krieger in stock

Krieger Barrel - 30 Caliber - 1-17 Twist - #17 Heavy Varmint - @ 29" - 1.250 x .900 - 4 Groove - 300 Bore - Stainless | Bruno Shooters Supply

www.brunoshooters.com

Barts is making 30br bullets now...

 

[Link]

I believe you have to turn brass for a Robinet chamber .330 I would order a .334 if I didn't want to turn brass. Is this correct?