So much for I'm done with the 6ppc,,,,

[Infrequent Shooter]

I'm just burnt out. The competing isn't fun anymore. It feels like a job and when u feel like that, it's time to hang it up. I'll miss most of the guys but that's it because everything else that you have to do before you actually shoot really sucks and the same after it's over. If somebody offer me some serious money for everything I'd sell it all including the motorhome that would go with it. I have a lot of stuff.

Heresy, I know. I wonder how the sport would do if the exotic rests with joy sticks were removed from the game? Just an elevation wheel, on the center axis of the front rest. Like the Hart green competition rest. And no loading during the match. I expect hell fire to rain down on me. Or if every shooter/position had the same basic front rest. It would take 50% of the work out of the day. I do not shoot in competition. Maybe run a few matches like this and see what happens!

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Heresy, I know. I wonder how the sport would do if the exotic rests with joy sticks were removed from the game? Just an elevation wheel, on the center axis of the front rest. Like the Hart green competition rest. And no loading during the match. I expect hell fire to rain down on me. Or if every shooter/position had the same basic front rest. It would take 50% of the work out of the day. I do not shoot in competition. Maybe run a few matches like this and see what happens!

I think going back to a standard rest would affect score shooters more than group...just more movement in score. As for loading at the match...Well, you know my answer is gonna be to use a tuner but I'm guessing if you ban joysticks you'd probably do the same to tuners. So, I'd use a forgiving cartridge, maybe a 30BR/Major or a PPC/Grendel with LT32 or similar, that holds tune..and go back to bag squeezing.

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

I think going back to a standard rest would affect score shooters more than group...just more movement in score. As for loading at the match...Well, you know my answer is gonna be to use a tuner but I'm guessing if you ban joysticks you'd probably do the same to tuners. So, I'd use a forgiving cartridge, maybe a 30BR/Major or a PPC/Grendel with LT32 or similar, that holds tune..and go back to bag squeezing.

I'd be good with a tuner. two classes, w and w/o tuner. Or allow them altogether. Allowing a tuner doesn't slow down a match, it seems to me. Just allows the shooter to probably be more accurate for the conditions. And no loading after the match starts. I guess folks would bring 400 rounds of ammo. The goal would be to make it cheaper, simpler, and less toting heavy stuff around. I really like the part about same old fashioned rest at each bench. I think that one change would make a huge difference in matches. And I understand the scores/aggs would change dramatically.

 

[Bronsin]

Making everyone use the same old rest style means we would all have to buy one to practice with, and the $1400-2000 rests would be useless. Can't stuff the genie back in the bottle.

 

[JimPag]

Heresy, I know. I wonder how the sport would do if the exotic rests with joy sticks were removed from the game? Just an elevation wheel, on the center axis of the front rest. Like the Hart green competition rest. And no loading during the match. I expect hell fire to rain down on me. Or if every shooter/position had the same basic front rest. It would take 50% of the work out of the day. I do not shoot in competition. Maybe run a few matches like this and see what happens!

I honestly don't understand your reply to what I stated. How would changing a rest take 50% of the work out of the day? You obviously don't shoot competition. I'm talking about all the crap that goes along with the actual shooting of a match. The prep work before like loading a certain amount of rounds for each agg., then loading up my motorhome with everything that I need. Then driving to the match. Sometime one hour away up to 18 hours away. Then u get up early drag all your stuff out and set flags, poles and probes. Then you shoot then after it's over you have to go out and retrieve all you flags, probes and poles and put away everything that you dragged out and then drive back home, unload everything and clean up your stuff. The shooting part is fun, the rest of the stuff has turned into a real drag. When you feel the before and after part isn't worth the shooting part it's time to get out which is what I did because this crap isn't worth it to me anymore. I was talking to another competitor yesterday about it and he is at the point where I am. When your so wrapped up in this game that all you think of is competing you put aside a lot of stuff like keeping up with your house and yardwork and he said I go over to a bunch of my friend's houses who are only interested in shooting and all their houses look like shit holes because all they care about is shooting. He said they are one dimensional. They don't have more than one hobby which is pretty sad because I've seen what that can do to a person and it's sad especially when they have to get out of shooting for health reasons, old age, ect they end up being lost.

 

[nakneker]

I don’t shoot competition, just hunt and enjoy long range and small groups. I certainly can see how someone could get burnt out if they compete and it becomes their life. I can also see how the opposite is true too, at least shooting, reloading, hunting and having fun, I’ve seen it keep the old man out and keep a bit of spark and joy for many a guy in their advanced years. My Dad is one of them, only has vision in one eye, thankfully it’s his right eye, the one he uses to shoot. Struggles getting his gear out but the 100 and 200 yard Bench is only 150 paces from his front door. Many times I have to help get his gear out, he’s 81, has diabetes and is in his final stretch but he keeps doing it and it still brings a smile and a spark to his eyes. To each their own.

That’s an impressive collection of rifles Jim! I wish I had the funds to make that offer, for the H4198 if nothing else, lol.

Wildcatter, love that Freedom arms 475 Linebaugh, I’ve always wanted one.

Good thread.

 

[Shooter13]

I'm just burnt out. The competing isn't fun anymore. It feels like a job and when u feel like that, it's time to hang it up. I'll miss most of the guys but that's it because everything else that you have to do before you actually shoot really sucks and the same after it's over. If somebody offer me some serious money for everything I'd sell it all including the motorhome that would go with it. I have a lot of stuff.

Jim, I got that way with golf, was playing over 200 rounds a year and had my index down to a 1.6, been 5 years now and getting the urge to play again, just not like I did or as much as I did. Don't sell off all the guns, you may get the urge to do it again!
Take care my friend.

 

[JimPag]

Jim, I got that way with golf, was playing over 200 rounds a year and had my index down to a 1.6, been 5 years now and getting the urge to play again, just not like I did or as much as I did. Don't sell off all the guns, you may get the urge to do it again!
Take care my friend.

Well I put my motorhome on Craigslist late this morning and had a 82 year old woman from Walpole Mass that seriously wants it. Once that's gone there is no way I'm ever going to shoot again. I'll sell of my stuff little by little. I sold another rifle to a guy in VT over the weekend. I just want to concentrate on my Barracuda. Went to Wilmington, Mass yesterday and met with the 2 owners of K&E Custom Automotive. They are going to rework the car for me the way I want it. There are some things that I wasn't crazy about that the original owner did when he built the car. So I had a list of about 20 things that I want done to the car. Cha Ching, Cha Ching. I have expensive taste. I figure it's going to cost me about 12 new complete rifles with scopes to get what I want done. LMFAO.

 

[Tim Singleton]

Remeber to Put me down for the B Scoville
one at a time still gets them gone

 

[wildcatter]

I'm just burnt out. The competing isn't fun anymore. It feels like a job and when u feel like that, it's time to hang it up. I'll miss most of the guys but that's it because everything else that you have to do before you actually shoot really sucks and the same after it's over. If somebody offer me some serious money for everything I'd sell it all including the motorhome that would go with it. I have a lot of stuff.

Jim that's exactly why I built the old school 222! When I take the 6ppc, Bat on a Scoville with the NF 42x44 I'm expected to win. The older we get the less winning matters, and the more doing what you enjoy does.

When they see me open the case and set the old Panda setting an old cchool McMillan with a B&L 36x setting on top and ask what I'm shooting? None of them expect anything except to kick my but! This makes it even more fun, knowing how much fun I'm going to have sending them to wailing wall taken out by a little old school triple duece!

It also makes those matches I shoot the ppc in more fun and I think it even helps me pay more attention again, and take less for granted. But one thing is for sure, shooting that duece is Part of the reason I bought another 6ppc and am having more fun again!

If you gotta win to enjoy it, maybe it's time to hang it up. But when you can have fun just knowing your shooting your best, enjoying what yer doing better than beating a little white ball, or laying in the shade, you'll find a way to keep it fun. Good Luck, I'm sure there are others that enjoy seeing you their.

I sold everything once, never again. I might get rid of one and take a break, but the little duece will always be on standby for a fun day, with no pressures. But when I decide on a whim to invest in another hammer, I'll always have the gear to put it to use! Please don't make that mistake.

 

[JimPag]

Jim that's exactly why I built the old school 222! When I take the 6ppc, Bat on a Scoville with the NF 42x44 I'm expected to win. The older we get the less winning matters, and the more doing what you enjoy does.

When they see me open the case and set the old Panda setting an old cchool McMillan with a B&L 36x setting on top and ask what I'm shooting? None of them expect anything except to kick my but! This makes it even more fun, knowing how much fun I'm going to have sending them to wailing wall taken out by a little old school triple duece!

It also makes those matches I shoot the ppc in more fun and I think it even helps me pay more attention again, and take less for granted. But one thing is for sure, shooting that duece is Part of the reason I bought another 6ppc and am having more fun again!

If you gotta win to enjoy it, maybe it's time to hang it up. But when you can have fun just knowing your shooting your best, enjoying what yer doing better than beating a little white ball, or laying in the shade, you'll find a way to keep it fun. Good Luck, I'm sure there are others that enjoy seeing you their.

I sold everything once, never again. I might get rid of one and take a break, but the little duece will always be on standby for a fun day, with no pressures. But when I decide on a whim to invest in another hammer, I'll always have the gear to put it to use! Please don't make that mistake.

I'm not going to sell everything. I sold another rifle today so I'm down to 20. I just don't enjoy the before and the after of shooting in competition. I still like the shooting part but again not the before and after stuff. I got a new hobby. I got my new Hemi 70 Barracuda May 27th but I only drove it one mile from where they unloaded it when it arrived from Canada. I don't want to show it yet because to me it's still the guy's car that I bought it from not mine. It has stuff on there that I'm not crazy about and I found a really good custom car shop that's going to make it mine. These two guys were trained by Boyd Coddington and Gene Winfield two of the best custom car guy's in the US. So I'm going to spend a ton of money getting it to where I want it but I don't care it's only money and you can't take it with you. I spent over 200K on my entire Benchrest operation so spending 200K on the car is worth it to me.

 

[wildcatter]

Great call

 

[wildcatter]

I'm not going to sell everything. I sold another rifle today so I'm down to 20. I just don't enjoy the before and the after of shooting in competition. I still like the shooting part but again not the before and after stuff. I got a new hobby. I got my new Hemi 70 Barracuda May 27th but I only drove it one mile from where they unloaded it when it arrived from Canada. I don't want to show it yet because to me it's still the guy's car that I bought it from not mine. It has stuff on there that I'm not crazy about and I found a really good custom car shop that's going to make it mine. These two guys were trained by Boyd Coddington and Gene Winfield two of the best custom car guy's in the US. So I'm going to spend a ton of money getting it to where I want it but I don't care it's only money and you can't take it with you. I spent over 200K on my entire Benchrest operation so spending 200K on the car is worth it to me.

70 Hemi Cudas in mint condition have known to bring 7 figures for the right ones. 200k is a small investment, when you consider those that are less unique still fetch 700k or more in the same mint condition.

I like your taste in hobbies. Just please don't sell them guns Fer golf clubs,,,, ;<)

 

[Murray Brook]

@JimPag
When you make the Cuda yours some pics would be great

 

[JimPag]

70 Hemi Cudas in mint condition have known to bring 7 figures for the right ones. 200k is a small investment, when you consider those that are less unique still fetch 700k or more in the same mint condition.

I like your taste in hobbies. Just please don't sell them guns Fer golf clubs,,,, ;<)

70 Hemi Cudas in mint condition have known to bring 7 figures for the right ones. 200k is a small investment, when you consider those that are less unique still fetch 700k or more in the same mint condition.

I like your taste in hobbies. Just please don't sell them guns Fer golf clubs,,,, ;<)

This is not an original one like the 1st Hemi Cuda that I bought when I was 18 in 76. I didn't want a stock plain Jane 70 Hemi Cuda. I wanted a Pro Street Hemi one. You don't spend between 200K and beyond and then cut it all up. This was a plain Jane 70 Barracuda with a 6 cylinder that they started with and turned it to what it is now. It's nice and the few people that have seen it were very impressed with it but like I said some of the stuff on it I don't like. K&E Custom's can't take it until the fall because they are busy with other people's cars which I'm not in a hurry anyways. I'm not selling all my rifles. I'm keeping most of my stuff like powder, primers, Brass, Bullets, just in case some year I get the urge to compete again but right now I'm enjoying not dragging my sorry ass to these shoots every weekend.

 

[wildcatter]

Jim you can't buy a 70 hemi Cuda for 200k today, in any condition. But I see what you got now.

 

[davidjoe]

This is the most expensive Hemi car auctioned to date. 3.5M. This is a rare convertible, 1971. I do wonder sometimes about market making, in transactions like that.



Maybe 500 peak horsepower.

Much rarer, 1 of 1, is the only airworthy F-4 Phantom circulating amongst private citizens.

It is also about 3M, but it comes with spare engines. It has flown 925 mph at 125 feet.



About 36,000 peak horsepower.

The Cuda’ likely cost Plymouth as much to produce as a set of wheels and tires on the Phantom. Maybe the tail hook.

Hemi Cars were twice as prolific as Phantoms. 10,000 versus 5,000.

F-4 Phantoms were converted to remote controlled drones and used for target practice and testing.

 

[SecondsCount]

This is the most expensive Hemi car auctioned to date. 3.5M. This is a rare convertible, 1971. I do wonder sometimes about market making, in transactions like that.

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Maybe 500 peak horsepower.

Much rarer, 1 of 1, is the only airworthy F-4 Phantom circulating amongst private citizens.

It is also about 3M, but it comes with spare engines. It has flown 925 mph at 125 feet.

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About 36,000 peak horsepower.

The Cuda’ likely cost Plymouth as much to produce as a set of wheels and tires on the Phantom. Maybe the tail hook.

Hemi Cars were twice as prolific as Phantoms. 10,000 versus 5,000.

F-4 Phantoms were converted to remote controlled drones and used for target practice and testing.

I'll take the Phantom

 

[17VLD]

I remember an associate back in the late ‘70s bought a surplus Phantom for what I thought was a fairly inexpensive price at the time, the only problem to me was the price of fuel to fly for an hour was $2000- back then. I would much rather put fuel in a hemi ‘Cuda

 

[davidjoe]

I remember an associate back in the late ‘70s bought a surplus Phantom for what I thought was a fairly inexpensive price at the time, the only problem to me was the price of fuel to fly for an hour was $2000- back then. I would much rather put fuel in a hemi ‘Cuda

Then there’s that older aircraft ratio of flight time to maintenance hours, probably 10:1. Makes match shooting look cheap.

Man, I’m surprised that they had one in the category of surplus in the 70’s. The last new one rolled out in 1981, which is like buying an F-16 now, yes, it would be an older design, but still an in-production fighter.