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Electric Cars -- anyone own one?

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"EVs made up 8.6 per cent of US new vehicle sales in the first quarter of 2023, compared with 5.9 per cent for the same period a year earlier"

"Toyota claimed it had made a “technological breakthrough” to resolve durability issues and “a solution for materials” that would allow an EV powered by a solid-state battery to have a range of 1,200km and charging time of 10 minutes or less." "....now has enough confidence to mass-produce solid-state batteries in EVs by 2027 or 2028."

The landscape is changing fast fellas... Of course, percentage changes to the in-use base will take much longer and there will be considerable differences between urban and rural dynamics along the way.
 
The "landscape" has been manipulated for many years now. Our tax dollars have propped up the EV industry while they slowly hamstring our ability to produce the power that is required to feed their dreams. The industry subsidizes offshore interests that produce most of the components for our Green Technology Industries.
Follow the Money.
 
JDH47, you're right. The only EV's on lots are fully loaded, even the plug ins. They want $60K for a compact car. The elites are trying to drive us into the EV market. Actually, the elites don't think we should even own cars. We need Henry Ford and an Electric Model T to make the EV thing work for the masses. Then we need nuclear to make the fuel for them.
 
1. If, like me, you keep a car for 15+ years, you should research battery life for the choice of vehicle.
2. Look at the cost of battery pack replacement and repair after the warranty expires.
7. Toyota is coming out with EVs with solid state batteries. Promised date is "late 2025". That could significantly affect the value of Teslas.
8. I have friends with Toyota Prius hybrids. These Prius cars have proved exceptionally reliable, and one has over 350,000 miles on the original battery pack, and the owner says she averages about 48 mpg.
I signed up for the Toyota all EV, called the bz4x. (-; I ended up with this because of the predicted longer life of the battery. It is not sold as a “cross country” car. Slower charging is built into the electronics, to preserve the life of the battery. But you can charge it to 100% at Level 2. It is designed for home charging on a 240 volt circuit rather than fast charging on the road, and has a 225 estimated mile/charge. The driver’s controls are designed closer to standard controls, compared to a Tesla. Its sort of boring, but hopefully in a good way. A cross between a Prius and a RAV4. But I am keeping my PU for the woods. And will fly if I take a 1000 mile road trip.
 
The "landscape" has been manipulated for many years now. Our tax dollars have propped up the EV industry while they slowly hamstring our ability to produce the power that is required to feed their dreams.
Only 10 of the 68 EV models currently for sale in the US are eligible for the full $7,500 Federal credit. It only makes up a portion of decision to buy an EV. If I were to buy a Tesla, for example, it won't be a Model Y or Model 3...
 
I’m into aviation. I just read an article wherein the manufacturer developing electric airplanes proclaimed that the existing infrastructure cannot support electric aircraft.
 
These the ones that have started all the fires in NYC?
Over 400 building fires in NYC since January. All attributed to LI-ion batteries. Like any story reported you have to figure out what the truth may actually be. Are the fires from LI- ion batteries?.Absolutely.
Are some maybe caused by improper charging? Sure. Make no mistake that’s LI- ion batteries in all electric cars. Are these in NYC mostly on Motor bikes? Yes. All are LI-ion nonetheless.
The Cargo( sic) ship , realty called a RoRo (roll on roll off), that has been burning in the dock in port Newark NJ, Carry’s about 5,000 cars. Been burning for three days. Two firefighters dead. Threat of capsize because of amount of water pumped on to fight the fire. How many of these cars are electric?
News doesn’t say. Still burning now and as is known you can’t put a li-ion fire out with water.
When you’re insurance company for homeowners asks if you have an electric car ( which is easy for the to find out) and tells you your premiums triple or better yet that they do not insure homes with electric cars, maybe that will be the eye opener. The insurance companies didn’t get to their huge size by paying out claims.
Joe Biden pushing electric cars down our throat is a direct measure of his intelligence and how much he cares.
 
EVs are the top seller in only a single state, California, the one state which has mandated 100% EV sales by 2035.

California contains 39% of all the EVs in the US, yet EVs constitute only 2% of CA's registered vehicles.

EVs still account for only about 0.6% of all registered vehicles in the US. Take California's EVs away, and it’s just 0.4%.
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Only 10 of the 68 EV models currently for sale in the US are eligible for the full $7,500 Federal credit. It only makes up a portion of decision to buy an EV. If I were to buy a Tesla, for example, it won't be a Model Y or Model 3...
When I bought my 2023 Bolt EUV, it did not qualify, but Chevy reduced the price of the by $7500 over what the 2022 cost. The 2022 did Qualify.
 
EVs are the top seller in only a single state, California, the one state which has mandated 100% EV sales by 2035.

California contains 39% of all the EVs in the US, yet EVs constitute only 2% of CA's registered vehicles.

EVs still account for only about 0.6% of all registered vehicles in the US. Take California's EVs away, and it’s just 0.4%.
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The 39% was for 2021.

The average age of a vehicle in the US is 12.5 years. EV as a % of sales is currently just under 9% and growing rapidly. (And not just in California. For example, in Florida EV market share of new sales is running at 6% currently and climbing rapidly.) Over the next decade those numbers will change a LOT.

And the US is running way behind Europe where "the sales share of electric cars reached 21%, up from 18% in 2021, 10% in 2020 and under 3% prior to 2019. European countries continued to rank highly for the sales share of electric cars, led by Norway at 88%, Sweden at 54%, the Netherlands at 35%, Germany at 31%, the United Kingdom at 23% and France at 21% in 2022." Source: https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2023/trends-in-electric-light-duty-vehicles The figure for China is 29%. The US is just getting going. (The mere fact that this thread exists is evidence of such.)
 
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The 39% was for 2021.
Actually it's as of April 2 2022 per S&P Global Motility (via Axios). I should have so stipulated, but it's likely more recent figures are not yet available. It's common practice to refer to such lagging data in the present tense in a colloquial setting.


EV as a % of sales is currently just under 9% and growing rapidly. ... " ...Europe where the sales share of electric cars reached 21%,

One must avoid the common trap of confusing percentage of new sales w/ the percentage of registered vehicles. As I stated and repeat: 39% of all EVs registered in the US are in California. And EVs amount to only 0.6% of all vehicles registered in the US.
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Actually it's as of April 2 2022 per S&P Global Motility (via Axios). I should have so stipulated, but it's likely more recent figures are not yet available. It's common practice to refer to such lagging data in the present tense in a colloquial setting.




One must avoid the common trap of confusing percentage of new sales w/ the percentage of registered vehicles. As I stated and repeat: 39% of all EVs registered in the US are in California. And EVs amount to only 0.6% of all vehicles registered in the US.
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Fair. And to the extent that California's EV share of new vehicle sales is above the national average then its share of EV registered base will rise.

My point is that if the EV share of new sales is currently 9% and rising one won't have to wait long to see EV share of all vehicles registered in the US change very rapidly (if the total vehicle stock has an average life of 12.5 years) - even without EV share of new sales climbing as high as Europe etc. The 0.6% figure is already in the rearview mirror. Figures at least 20x that are visible through the windshield.
 
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