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Annealer options

Used to be a flame annealer, then the wife offered me a bedroom in a climate controlled area of the house instead of the basement. It was a “no brainer“ to accept her condition to not use an open flame… especially after creating a big burn mark on the rug! It cost more to replace the flooring than to buy the AMP!
 
So I must me a daredevil. I use my ugly annealer in my reloading room. Which is in my house in a spare bedroom. Which is also my day time office as I am able to work from home.

Powder of course is stored away from the work surface. I open a window and point a fan going out. I open the sliding glass door in the next room over to create air flow in the proper direction. I sit right in front of the annealer as it works and drops the brass.

I will say, that I probably wouldn't do it this way if I had not bought the Ugly annealer or an annealer in which the torch nozzle was not clamped to the system. On the ugly, the nozzle is clamped to a rod that is secure in the entire contraption. I run a hose to the propane cyl.
 
considering we have a gas stove, gas furnace, gas clothes dryer, and a gas hot water heater the idea of having an open flame in the house does not worry me. I would not have an open jug of powder or sleeve of primers next to it but then if I chose to it would only be the Darwin effect in operation. People who have no more common sense than that should not be swimming in the gene pool. You can buy a lot of metal baking trays for 1200 dollars
 
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So I must me a daredevil. I use my ugly annealer in my reloading room. Which is in my house in a spare bedroom. Which is also my day time office as I am able to work from home.

Powder of course is stored away from the work surface. I open a window and point a fan going out. I open the sliding glass door in the next room over to create air flow in the proper direction. I sit right in front of the annealer as it works and drops the brass.

I will say, that I probably wouldn't do it this way if I had not bought the Ugly annealer or an annealer in which the torch nozzle was not clamped to the system. On the ugly, the nozzle is clamped to a rod that is secure in the entire contraption. I run a hose to the propane cyl.

I often light my cigars with my annealing torch
Are the Marxist mobs planning to ban propane annealing next?

Investigating a few of the listed machines, prices are reasonable but no or minimum chyna parts is an important consideration for me.
 
In case anyone is looking for the perfect landing zone for their brass when it's outfed by the annealer, I use a silicone baking tray 9x12". Also known as a swiss cake roll mat. The raised edges are the key. I already had it for lubing cast bullets. So it was a natural fit.


X-Haibei Swiss Roll Cake Mat Flexible Baking Tray Silicone Cookies Mold L10 W11inch H 0.78inch
 
I used the electric induction for a year, it worked but was slow and tedious. I recently with the AGS, bottom line model @ 210 delivered. Setup and running in 15 minutes, I really like it, much faster and more consistent, you need to do some adjusting but once you get it set, it works. I would recommend the riser or be a DIY and fashion something to give more space for the finished brass. I am very happy with it.
There is absolutely NOTHING faster than induction. If your induction setup was slow to heat up the brass it was either significantly underpowered, or more likely (and what I would bet on) a totally inefficient coil design that was barely coupled with the brass. My induction unit can easily melt a .308 case in under 8 seconds. Yes, I said MELT. That is about 3X longer than is needed to properly anneal a brass case.
Dave
 
considering we have a gas stove, gas furnace, gas clothes dryer, and a gas hot water heater the idea of having an open flame in the house does not worry me. I would have an open jug of powder or sleeve of primers next to it but then if I chose to it would only be the Darwin effect in operation. People who have no more common sense than that should not be swimming in the gene pool. You can buy a lot of metal baking trays for 1200 dollars
Lol. I had a buddy who forgot to anneal his cases and thought it would be a good idea to do so after he primed them in his induction annealer. I was there when it happened and didn’t know they were primed cases. The first 10-15 went fine and he was catching the cases in a Pyrex glass bowl. Then all the sudden I almost shit myself when one went off in the bowl and that caused 3 or 4 others to ignite in the bowl. Needless to say, the bowl shattered and when the cases hit the floor another 2 or 3 went off. It was like popcorn. That is the last time I reloaded with him because he thought it was funny. Safety is no joke.
Dave
 
So I must me a daredevil. I use my ugly annealer in my reloading room. Which is in my house in a spare bedroom. Which is also my day time office as I am able to work from home.

Powder of course is stored away from the work surface. I open a window and point a fan going out. I open the sliding glass door in the next room over to create air flow in the proper direction. I sit right in front of the annealer as it works and drops the brass.

I will say, that I probably wouldn't do it this way if I had not bought the Ugly annealer or an annealer in which the torch nozzle was not clamped to the system. On the ugly, the nozzle is clamped to a rod that is secure in the entire contraption. I run a hose to the propane cyl.
 
As said, I used a flame annealed for a couple years with no problem. The reason I went with induction is the repeatability, not safety , but was a concern. But, for the same reason I check cases for powder and rounds for oal, it doesn't hurt to be careful. The repeatability of accurate annealing time, every time, is just one less thing that plants a doubt if accuracy falls off. If I had the $1500.00 I would have an AMP annealed. Nothing wrong with using what you have, some people have Promethius powder scales, some use Lee perfect powder measures.,,,rsbhunter
 
Just ordered the AGS for the fathers day deal $252 shipped so will report when it arrives and i get it in operation
You might consider these modifications:
 
Over time, the Amp pays for itself in the time you save using it. In addition, you know you are hearing the brass consistently, and can consistently increase or decrease the amount that you anneal the brass in very small increments.

I tried all types of annealing and machines. I would still be salt bathing brass had I not bought an AMP. I don’t care what people say, I extensively tested salt bath annealing. My LabRadar, calipers and seating press proved that it works, and that it works consistently. I could never get used to dealt with the hot liquid, or justify it.

Some of the best shooters on the site do not anneal. My guess is that most of those that do, use an AMP.
 

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