Wilson in-line die question

[Tesoro]

i am wondering why my seating dies come with a base? My sinclair arbor base is flat as a pancake so I just use it and not the supplied base. Seems to work fine and more efficient than fidgeting with their base. Am I missing something?

 

[mgunderson]

Not all presses have a steel base. A none steel base may yield or wear. The base provided is designed to work. I understand the question, but still you my provided base.

 

[Tesoro]

Ok but if the non-steel arbor base wears then the wilson base will still be sitting on an uneven surface that it wore out?!

 

[Explorer1]

Not 100% sure but I always thought the hole in the base is a safety feature so nothing gets crunched onto the primer. The potential result bugs me so I do use the base.

 

[Tesoro]

Not 100% sure but I always thought the hole in the base is a safety feature so nothing gets crunched onto the primer. The potential result bugs me so I do use the base.

Oops!! There had to be a reason! i think i will dig my ones out of the junk shooting parts box!! Thanks. Annealing a case with a fresh primer is about as far as I want to take it with reloading mistakes.

 

[LHSmith]

The bases are usually warped and cause rocking. Also it is very easy to get a kernal of powder between the seater and base and viola ( wallah) -there goes your targeted seat depth. I always err on the side of safety, but I am not concerned about setting off a primer using a small arbor press at the minute seating force required for my rounds.

 

[Straightshooter1]

i am wondering why my seating dies come with a base? My sinclair arbor base is flat as a pancake so I just use it and not the supplied base. Seems to work fine and more efficient than fidgeting with their base. Am I missing something?

I use my Sinclair Arbor Press the same way and have done so for years with no issues. Like you say, doing so is much less hassle than using the base that comes with the Wilson die as I found no difference in results whether I used that base or not.

 

[Tesoro]

The bases are usually warped and cause rocking. Also it is very easy to get a kernal of powder between the seater and base and viola ( wallah) -there goes your targeted seat depth. I always err on the side of safety, but I am not concerned about setting off a primer using a small arbor press at the minute seating force required for my rounds.

I know the risk at a tho or two tension is miniscule in comparison to other things we do but if ‘shite happens’ I am usually involved.

 

[Shinbone]

Personally, I use the base because I find it easier than without: After loading powder into the case, I set the base onto my loading bench, set the filled case onto the base, and then insert the bullet. I then place the die/seating stem over the case/bullet, and lift the the whole shebang onto the press base to do the final seating of the bullet. The base makes the lifting step a little easier.

 

[Tesoro]

I say use a sharpie to draw a circle around seater die on arbor base plate and bore a hole in the center. Now only have 2 things to manipulate instead of 3. And safety issue resolved.

 

[shooterjon]

Not 100% sure but I always thought the hole in the base is a safety feature so nothing gets crunched onto the primer. The potential result bugs me so I do use the base.

I think Explorer 1 is got it,at least that was what I under stood from my reloading experiences,i have been reloading for about 58 years.
Just an OLD TIMER THINKIN !

 

[OMW57]

I THINK THE IDEA WITH THE SUPPLIED BASE IS TO PROVIDE A RELIEF HOLE UNDER THE PRIMER SO YOU CAN'T SET ONE OFF IF A PRIMER IS SITTING A LITTLE "PROUD"!
IT'S A SAFETY THING

 

[RustyInBend]

Not a big deal with an Arbor Press, but the "slot" over the scale on my Amp Press is sized perfectly for the base on my LEWilson inline dies. So in my case, they're very useful.

 

[Ray123]

Sometimes I use the steel base and sometimes I don't. I don't use a conventional arbor press, but anltered heavy duty one....or the Forester press to seat.. with shell plate off ..and flat steel bottom plate and a modified piece of metal that fits the locking ring cut out, no flexing easily seats bullets in the 6 dasher...next to the powder dispenser, mounted on the Bridgeport mill table...quick detachable mounts ...and adjustable table height.

 

[SeabeeKen]

I contacted wilson about this. Their reply was,
1. safety, to keep something from hitting primer.
2. To get consistent seating depth.

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

I contacted wilson about this. Their reply was,
1. safety, to keep something from hitting primer.
2. To get consistent seating depth.

I don't know how to describe it, but I think the base combined with the form and fit of the die helps with #2.

 

[Tesoro]

^ #2

 

[FNSafari]

If UR worried about things not being flat while seating, just measure your bullet runout after seating.

 

[Tesoro]

If UR worried about things not being flat while seating, just measure your bullet runout after seating.

That wont isolate the die+base effect. If your neck is not perfect then that will probably cause more runout than a snug wilson die on a not so perfect base

 

[FNSafari]

That wont isolate the die+base effect. If your neck is not perfect then that will probably cause more runout than a snug wilson die on a not so perfect base

seating a bullet with and without the base, on your arbor press base and especially on a dead nuts surface plate will give you an idea if your base is an issue. My runout generally measures .001-.0015 measured with a NECO tool. I'm not concerned with the die base.