Would I have take that shot? Hell know! Having said that, I just don't have the skill set and know it. If I knew that I could make the shot, then I most likely would have. People go sheep hunting make those shots quite often. In fact if they can't make those types of shots they should stay home and save some money. Most negative comments are made by folks who don't have the skill.
1035 yard bear
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First of all it is hunting. What’s the difference between sitting in a blind or tree stand and watching maybe 50 or a100 yard radius or watching several hundreds of yards. You have to be constantly vigilant watching for any sign of movement. I’ve taken game with a bow, a revolver and a rifle while stocking. The thing you’re missing is the equipment normally used has enormous amount of Kinetic energy and even a shot outside of the chest is enough to produce a clean kill.
I honestly don’t believe someone would read an article like this and run out a have a custom rifle built costing several thousand dollars and another three or four thousand dollars or more on a scope.
By the way are you a hunter and a shooter or just a shooter, just curious.
it has something to do with the
thinggie with slots in it on the end of the long thinggie the flames come out of.and likely kills better at 1035yds than the CM does point blank.
called a muzzle break.
A lifelong hunter - started when I was 12 in the 60's with Dad and Grandpa. I'm a shooter too. Shot NRA competitive pistol for 30 years, qualified Distinguished Expert, AAA in Hunter's Small-Bore Silhouette. Shot a little 3 position rimfire competition a long time ago. Got into "precision rifle" relatively recently, in the 90's. Still trying to figure out the latter discipline.
No disrespect intended, but if you don't understand the difference between "sitting in a blind and tree stand and shooting 100 to 50 yards at a deer versus attempting a 1,000-yard shot at a living creature then there is nothing I can say to explain it to you.
I haven't missed the energy argument. I've seen gut shot deer with a 7mm magnum and the like that were never recovered. This as recently as a few years ago at a farm where I hunt.
Listen, I'm guilty too and I don't wish to judge anyone. I took a deer in 80's with a 357-magnum pistol at about 80 yards. Despite being an expert shot with a pistol, it was irresponsible. It was a stunt. Fortunately, I made a decent shot, but I had to finish the animal off with a neck shot. It's the last time I hunted deer with a pistol of marginal energy for deer.
The point I was trying to make it that there is very little margin for error shooting animal at the distance especially when you factor in wind and mirage let alone the skill of the shooter. As hunters, we owe to the animal to make a humane and responsible shot.
Spirited debate is healthy if done respectfully. Hopefully I've been respectful. I was trying to share my thoughts and experiences as a lifelong hunter. My family hunted for meat, not antlers. My father and grandpa never displayed racks. That's the culture I grew up in. Hunting was a way of life for my entire family.
As for someone trying to emulate this shot, I have to disagree. I see it at the range all the time, guys playing Navy Seal or Rambo, dressed in their tactical gear ready for "combat, shooting aimlessly as some perceived threat. We all tend to emulate someone; a wise man knows the difference between fantasy and reality. But this is just one old man's opinion based on life experiences. I certainly don't claim to know it all, in fact, I still have a lot to learn. Best wishes.
Being 77 years old it does get taxing to recover the animal. But luckily I realized early on that I was going to get older and groomed 5 young guys in the art of long range hunting one of which is my son. Great guys. I haven’t had to recover my animal for years. If they aren’t with me when I harvest one (which is very very rare) they will come when I call them.
redrockranger
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I consider it a honorable being attacked by the FETTERMAN crowd.
How many hall of fame points do you have ? Long range shooter.
redrockranger
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Do you have a handicap parking sticker for your side by side ?
hogpatrol
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My recent trip to the dark continent, I and my buddy had seven and a half days to kill forty cull animals. If we would have stalked to within 200 meters or less, we'd have been lucky to kill one or two a day and at the end of the day, our butts would have been dragging. As it stood, shooting LR, we took over sixty with one lost. The owner of the venue and our PH said when shooting long range, animals are going to be lost. Having hunted for over sixty years, the same can be said for the short range.
redrockranger
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You guys from Sniperhide site ?
outasite`08
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If this isn`t an assault on the thread,my name is Moses. Why do DA`s have to ruin stuff. I guess I`ll never know just pushed the ITAH button. Jeff
outasite`08
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I hope this makes it. In Oct. 2004 I spotted for a Seal sniper down at Blackwater. He was on his way to the Green Zone and wanted to zero being leaving. We shut the range down and left him get to work. Wind was 18-22 mph left to right. Five shot groups first from a 300 WM bolt gun. Checked dope and fired a 5 inch group center target. Next he fired a 5.56 semi he did not adjust for wind and fired a 7 inch group that was 18" to the right. Both groups at 800 yards. Point being he knew those guns and what he could do with them. Jeff
outasite`08
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No,but you could go there and leave us alone. Thank you Jeff
jghoghunter
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Hey Jeff
Redrockdangerranger doesn't have to leave that a$$hole remark about snipers hide just made him make the old ignore button. He was almost there to start out with.
outasite`08
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Jesse, Your Mark Twain reminder is timeless. And there seems to be more of them to deal with these days. Take care Jeff.
Now I’ve been staying out of this but for you to make a comment like that is BS!!! Leave the man alone he has more than proven that he was able to make the shot!!! If you want to make comments lake that about people frankly you need a good A$$ whipping!!! Now back the F off!!! WjM 1000 keep doing what your doing. I wish I could recover game for my dad. He’s got a couple of years on you and just can’t get out any more.
I need 15 points for the Hall of Fame, but I quit competitively shooting in the early 90's. It just got too political for me and wasn't fun anymore. I did win a national long-range IBS/NBRSA championship for score and two state championships one for group and one for score.
If I had a side by side, I would be able to get one issued, i have one for my street vehicle.
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