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The Chinese Spy Balloon

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Until Taiwan comes into play. Which it almost certainly will, at some point.

If "the world" determines that it won't tolerate one more nation getting gobbled up by tyrannical powers, even if they imagine those other countries are theirs to take, I suspect China will indeed do their worst. With Taiwan, I think that's the one face-saving thing they simply won't tolerate being kept from them. (Of course, they've got a solid amount of patience, compared to most other nations. They might decide to wait it out. But they might not, as it's "China's" territorial integrity they imagine is on the line here.)

Time will tell.
and a solid continuum of leadership and philosophy in the communist party, unlike our country that ebbs and flows between sane conservative and off the wall liberal leadership. Here, I blame the voters for continuing to elect corrupt, anti-american, anti-democracy candidates. Did you see over 100 Dem reps voted against a resolution condemning socialism vs. free market economy. You need more evidence as to where these jerks want us to go?
 
I'd kinda like to know whom the military genius was that.
1) Decided to wait as it could cause harm if it hit someone after being shot down.

2) Still thought that as it was flying over Kansas, Montana, etc..
Lets face it, those are NOT anywhere near as urban as the east coast.

3) And the big one!
We'll shoot a $400,000 Sidewinder at a freak'n BALLOON instead of $3,000 of 20mm Vulcan rounds.
Using a F22 against a BALLOON!

F16 could have given it a few spurts over Montana and after slowly coming down, all the gear on it wouldn't resemble a water logged pancake!!!

Sorry, but the taxpayers should demand heads on a silver platter!!!Y

Your point is well taken but I read that the only 2 U.S. planes that could reach
up 60,000 ft. were the F 22 and F 15. I don't know for sure but that was the excuse
given to make this major "made for T.V." event so sensational.
The word "government" means "mind control"
 
So, I start reading this post, and my grandson,(19) comes into my room and asks, "what are you doing gramps"? I tell him what I'm looking at and he reads a couple of the posts. Then he says, "you do realize this same thing happened when Trump was in office"? Except those ballons were not shot down.
 
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So, I start reading this post, and my grandson,(19) comes into my room and asks, "what are you doing gramps"? I tell him what I'm looking at and he reads a couple of the posts. Then he says, "you do realize this same thing happened when Trump was in office"? Except those ballons were shot down.
I have seen Marco Rubio replay from yesterday when a reporter ambushed him telling Rubio that it happened during Trumps years . How in the hell would something like this be kept secret? And a reporter gets to expose this on tv. Last week in the Pentagon presser the Gen. when asked about other balloons, he said that info was classified. Then on Sunday,it isn`t. What is going on? Jeff
 
I have seen Marco Rubio replay from yesterday when a reporter ambushed him telling Rubio that it happened during Trumps years . How in the hell would something like this be kept secret? And a reporter gets to expose this on tv. Last week in the Pentagon presser the Gen. when asked about other balloons, he said that info was classified. Then on Sunday,it isn`t. What is going on? Jeff
The truth has came out, they were actually during joe’s admin. They tried to keep it secret and didnt shoot them down
 
Wasnt any missile tests goin on though. Show me on the doll where those mean tweets hurt you.
Funny that when Trump was holding down the fort, Little Rocket Man was minding his own business, Putin (Trumps buddy :rolleyes:) was keeping quiet, unemployment was WAY DOWN, jobs were way up, the folks in NATO started paying "their fair share" but I forgot, Trump sent out mean tweets.
But I guess calling some leader of a foreign country an AZZ is good business??
Thinking it's better (in business) to play nice than piss them off from the get go. But I keep forgetting about those MEAN TWEETS. Orange Man BAD!!
 
Wasnt any missile tests goin on though.

Actually, during that Administration's term, with the exception of the year 2018 there have been fairly regular and consistent launches of missiles (including nuclear-capable ones) since it began. Fairly regular launches since 2012. And launches have occurred all the way back to 1984, with only a few years having none. Since Reagan, not one U.S. Administration missed some launches.

North Korean Missile Launches & Nuclear Tests: 1984-Present @ The Missile Defense Project at the Center for Strategic & International Studies, 4/20/2017.

As reported by:

  • IHS Janes
  • New York Times
  • Reuters
  • CNN
  • BBC
  • USA Today
  • Washington Times
  • Telegraph
  • UPI
  • Yonhap News
  • Federation of American Scientists
  • Fox News
  • CBS News
  • Washington Post
  • Associated Press
  • The Japan Times
  • The Diplomat
  • ...
 
Just wondered if anyone plotted the flight path across the US? If it was a red balloon could you clearly see the flight path? Just wondering........
 
Until Taiwan comes into play. Which it almost certainly will, at some point.

If "the world" determines that it won't tolerate one more nation getting gobbled up by tyrannical powers, even if they imagine those other countries are theirs to take, I suspect China will indeed do their worst. With Taiwan, I think that's the one face-saving thing they simply won't tolerate being kept from them. (Of course, they've got a solid amount of patience, compared to most other nations. They might decide to wait it out. But they might not, as it's "China's" territorial integrity they imagine is on the line here.)

Time will tell.
A novel approach that the World could take in the China/Taiwan debate is say “yes, we endorse China reunification, with the caveat the the Government would be patterned after Taiwan’s, ie a Palimentary Republic.

It is difficult to sanction a repressive Government that was the creation of one of the most prolific mass murderers in history.
 
A novel approach that the World could take in the China/Taiwan debate is say “yes, we endorse China reunification, with the caveat the the Government would be patterned after Taiwan’s, ie a Palimentary Republic.

Not sure how the world's nations having that take would get the CCP to behave reasonably, there. Whatever else might be likely, I doubt they'd relinquish their our-way-by-force method of "government" to adopt Taiwan's nation-wide. I think they'd laugh in their sleeves at such an idea, seeing it as just another sign of weakness and impotence to halt what China's going to get anyway.

It's going to be a rough decade or two, coming up. And not just with China. The crap we're seeing on "the streets" is showing up almost everywhere in the world. Seems like every hot spot that has existed the past 40+ years is bubbling over. If it gets must livelier, a number of such players might well take the leap to warfare. (Russia already has, of course ... threatening nuclear retaliation upon anyone lifting a finger or involving themselves.)

"May you live in interesting times."

- Chinese aphorism
 
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