6BR with 87 VMax and Varget load data **Updated**

[Dave in WI]

I'd do some smaller changes around the #'s 2 and 3. Got two charges on almost the same elevation. # 4 is a long way elevation wise from #3 or # 5.

Frank

I thought the same, but I just figured it was a POA thing. 3” dot seems a bit big to hold tight on, dunno what reticle he had.

I am using a NF SHV on 20x. Seemed able to hold center confidently. I don't know what happened with #5, different shoulder pressure maybe? I always get stuck on the small group and forget the whole point of a ladder is to find elevation consistency.
Maybe I'll try a few groups with 29.3 to 30.1 in .2gr increments.

 

[markT]

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[Dave in WI]

Maybe I'll try a few groups with 29.3 to 30.1 in .2gr increments.

I shot this today at 100yds. I was aiming at left bottom of square with 1.75 MOA elevation. Bipod and rear bag. I did make some scope windage corrections before group #6.

 

[urbanrifleman]

I shot this today at 100yds. I was aiming at left bottom of square with 1.75 MOA elevation. Bipod and rear bag. I did make some scope windage corrections before group #6.
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Averaging about .38 moa off a bipod and varmint bullets seems pretty satisfactory to me.

 

[Ccrider]

With my 10tw my go to load with 87vmax is 30.5gr Varget +\- with cci 450s. Easily shoots .25 moa or better.

 

[Dgd6mm]

Dave, how did the 87 vmax work out for you? I'm going to try some in my 6br for pdogs.

 

[boltfluter]

Dave, how did the 87 vmax work out for you? I'm going to try some in my 6br for pdogs.

Not Dave, but the 87 V-max is very close to a "bomb" when it comes to expansion! My longest kill on a smallish Rockchuck, at 789 yds, was almost blown in two with a relatively mild load out of my 6BR. Expansion is not a problem, to say the least!
Paul

 

[urbanrifleman]

Dave, how did the 87 vmax work out for you? I'm going to try some in my 6br for pdogs.

Are you going to shoot this in an eight twist?

 

[Dgd6mm]

Are you going to shoot this in an eight twist?

Yes.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Yes.

Please let me know what you find out. I couldn't get those thing to shoot worth a crap. It was incredibly disappointing. I also found out that you need a longer free bore than a 104 for that bullet or you'll be into the donut. I can't believe I'm the only person that's ever found that out. But I see guys shooting 87s with zero free bore in there so far past the donut it's not even funny.

 

[Dave in WI]

Dave, how did the 87 vmax work out for you? I'm going to try some in my 6br for pdogs.

I got it up to 3040 FPS with 31.3 of Varget without excessive pressure and accuracy on par with earlier loads. Worked great last year on PD's. I was short on time for this Junes shoot and loaded 200 rds of the same load. Plan to do more accuracy tuning afterwards. I am putting it in a chassis to fit me better and have upgraded to a FFP optic. I have the VMax sitting .005" short of rifling. I didn't try any seating depth tests yet.
I bought this barrel used from a member on here, it's one of Urbanrifleman's barrels. I need to pick up one of his 223AI barrels and can fireform some brass on this years shoot.

 

[urbanrifleman]

I got it up to 3040 FPS with 31.3 of Varget without excessive pressure and accuracy on par with earlier loads. Worked great last year on PD's. I was short on time for this Junes shoot and loaded 200 rds of the same load. Plan to do more accuracy tuning afterwards. I am putting it in a chassis to fit me better and have upgraded to a FFP optic. I have the VMax sitting .005" short of rifling. I didn't try any seating depth tests yet.
I bought this barrel used from a member on here, it's one of Urbanrifleman's barrels. I need to pick up one of his 223AI barrels and can fireform some brass on this years shoot.

I would be very interested to know how you got that to shoot.

Are you using older 87s ? Or brand new ones?

If you want a Rem 700 223a I have a bunch sitting here. They are good ones.

 

[Dave in WI]

I would be very interested to know how you got that to shoot.

Are you using older 87s ? Or brand new ones?

If you want a Rem 700 223a I have a bunch sitting here. They are good ones.

These are newer purchased 87's.
Left you a voicemail on a barrel

 

[AckleymanII]

Shank is Measuring .2435, what is your throat dia?

The ones that I have are some FAT bullets!

 

[Dgd6mm]

I got it up to 3040 FPS with 31.3 of Varget without excessive pressure and accuracy on par with earlier loads. Worked great last year on PD's. I was short on time for this Junes shoot and loaded 200 rds of the same load. Plan to do more accuracy tuning afterwards. I am putting it in a chassis to fit me better and have upgraded to a FFP optic. I have the VMax sitting .005" short of rifling. I didn't try any seating depth tests yet.
I bought this barrel used from a member on here, it's one of Urbanrifleman's barrels. I need to pick up one of his 223AI barrels and can fireform some brass on this years shoot.

Thanks for your reply Dave. Your 300 yard test target is very telling.
I like what I see. I bought the 87vmax's from Bradley when I had him chamber me another barrel late last year.
I'll be trying these in a CBI 8 tw. 6br with VV135. I hope I can stumble upon something close to as accurate as yours.
I've searched the archives and there are other pdog shooters having success using this bullet in a 6br. On the other hand I know others that can not get them to shoot. I figure I have to try.

 

[Dave in WI]

Thanks for your reply Dave. Your 300 yard test target is very telling.
I like what I see. I bought the 87vmax's from Bradley when I had him chamber me another barrel late last year.
I'll be trying these in a CBI 8 tw. 6br with VV135. I hope I can stumble upon something close to as accurate as yours.
I've searched the archives and there are other pdog shooters having success using this bullet in a 6br. On the other hand I know others that can not get them to shoot. I figure I have to try.

I chambered two barrels for friends in 6MM AI and they had good success with this bullet as well. Albeit much faster! I think they were just north of 3400 FPS.

 

[Bc'z]

Please let me know what you find out. I couldn't get those thing to shoot worth a crap. It was incredibly disappointing. I also found out that you need a longer free bore than a 104 for that bullet or you'll be into the donut. I can't believe I'm the only person that's ever found that out. But I see guys shooting 87s with zero free bore in there so far past the donut it's not even funny.

Are you using a bushing die for sizing, if not try one, this may elevate the doughnut

 

[RussellJ]

30 grains Varget, CCI 450, 87 VMAX, .010 into the rifling. 4 (5) shot groups agg. .287 from Kreiger barreled Remington. Hard to beat this with mass produced bullets. Start at 28.00 grains and work up. You will be happy with this combo.

I use the same load in a Savage LRPV 6BR with a factory 8-twist barrel. GREAT Load...