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High Prices Thread -- Vent Your Frustration

One thing I have noticed lately, is that there are fewer shooters at the range. Rarely do you see folks bringing large quantities of ammo and firing rapidly. The few AR shooters that do come there, shoot more responsibly, instead of just dumping one mag after another.

Having perfected the loads I shoot a long time ago, I have enough components to last me for years to come. At 84 years old, most of my shooting buddies are in the same age group and are in the same boat as I am. I also shoot high quality 22LR. I do not foresee a need for any new purchase of this ammo or components, in my lifetime. Would I buy more components and ammo, if the prices returned to normal. Absolutely! Would I sell any of my supplies at todays prices. Absolutely not! I don't need the money. Shooting and reloading are my one passion. Now if I were in dire straights and need to buy at todays prices, I would just bite the bullet and pay them. Shooting is that important to me.

I do feel sorry for the folks who can't obtain their needs but not enough to share what I have on hand. Well maybe for a select few but they are close friends and don't have a need.

I don't blame retailers for charging inflated prices. With the shortage of supplies, they must still maintain a certain level of income. If they get less product, they must raise prices or close their doors. What I find despicable, are the private sellers who are attempting to get rich quick. I wouldn't buy from them for all the tea in China. They are the gougers in my opinion.

Anyway, that's my storey and I am sticking to it.
 
I grew up listening to my Father and Grandfather telling stories of the Wars and the Great Depression. I guess I listened, because I remembered. Kids were sent to collect tin and metal from the dump. Rubber was also on the list. Anything that would help the War effort was collected.Gas rationing, black out curtains.......any body remember?
The Depression stories were the worst. So many families left with nothing. Guys hunted for subsistence, and shared the game. Ammo was precious. One shot, one kill was the rule. People died from hunger and cold. It was a bad time. I remember, so when I saw primers, I bought them. When I saw powder, I bought it. When I saw a deal on bullets, I bought as many as I could afford.
Maybe some guys here can tell their stories of the “old days”. Maybe a little late now, but it may help in the future.
Nick. You’re a little older than I am. Do you have a story about those days? I bet you do.
 
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joshb said:
I grew up listening to my Father and Grandfather telling stories of the Wars and the Great Depression. I guess I listened, because I remembered. Kids were sent to collect tin and metal from the dump. Rubber was also on the list. Anything that would help the War effort was collected.Gas rationing, black out curtains.......any body remember?
The Depression stories were the worst. So many families left with nothing. Guys hunted for subsistence, and shared the game. Ammo was precious. One shot, one kill was the rule. People died from hunger and cold. It was a bad time. I remember, so when I saw primers, I bought them. When I saw powder, I bought it. When I saw a deal on bullets, I bought as many as I could afford.
Maybe some guys here can tell their stories of the “old days”. Maybe a little late now, but it may help in the future.
Nick. You’re a little older than I am. Do you have a story about those days? I bet you do.
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We would scan trash cans for discarded returnable bottles. My father and I would go to the park and pick dandelion leaves. They were for salads, cooked and the flowers used for some pretty good wine. My grandfather would go to the city market and bring home a live pig or turkey, on a leash and slaughtered it in the backyard. Not one bit went to waste. Had a big pigeon coup and the were cooked with the sauce. Dad would regroove auto tires and we relined auto breaks by riveting them to the shoes. Shoes were patched until they fell apart and every pair had metal taps front and back to help keep them from wearing. All spare metal was donated for the war effort. All tires used inner tubes in those days and everyone new how to patch a tire. there were a lot of welding shops around and if your block cracked, you removed the engine and had it welded. You had no choice, that is if you were lucky enough to even have a car. Coal is what warmed most houses and it could be bought for as little as $8.00 a ton. Grandfather would buy grapes by the wagon load and we all helped put them in the cellar through the coal chute. Lots of horse and wagons delivering produce to the markets and carrying ice to homes. Put a card in your window to let the iceman know how much ice you needed that day. The iceman wore a leather apron on his back that covered his shoulders and hung below his waist to keep dry. There was one heat vent in the house. It was placed where it would rise up the steps to heat the second and third floors. While we had a gas stove, the kitchen had no heat. There was a big coal fired stove in the kitchen that my grandmother cooked on and it also served to as heat. The living rome had a wind up RCA Victrola and lots of Italian records. The door was usually closed and was usually reserved for company. I could go on and on, but your get the idea. It was an Italian neighborhood and my grandfather started buying houses soon after he could afford them. He owned six and made sure the family all lived together,giving a house to each child when the got married. Sundays were family day and Pops house was the gathering spot. You ate one course at a time and I remember it usually took three hours or more to eat that Sunday meal. Pop kept a gallon jug of wine at his feet and glasses were passed to him for a refill. He always served the kids with some wine sweetened with 7up. We never knew if we were poor or rich and didn't give much thought to it. Looking back, I know we had little spare money but the family stuck together and shared everything with each other. I rarely saw store bought bread. Every family backed their own. My grandfather had a big grinding wheel in the back yard and would sit at the wheel while peddling it to sharpen knives. Many of our neighbors would be allowed to use it. That's all for now. I loved my childhood.
 
Nick Caprinolo said:
We would scan trash cans for discarded returnable bottles. My father and I would go to the park and pick dandelion leaves. They were for salads, cooked and the flowers used for some pretty good wine. My grandfather would go to the city market and bring home a live pig or turkey, on a leash and slaughtered it in the backyard. Not one bit went to waste. Had a big pigeon coup and the were cooked with the sauce. Dad would regroove auto tires and we relined auto breaks by riveting them to the shoes. Shoes were patched until they fell apart and every pair had metal taps front and back to help keep them from wearing. All spare metal was donated for the war effort. All tires used inner tubes in those days and everyone new how to patch a tire. there were a lot of welding shops around and if your block cracked, you removed the engine and had it welded. You had no choice, that is if you were lucky enough to even have a car. Coal is what warmed most houses and it could be bought for as little as $8.00 a ton. Grandfather would buy grapes by the wagon load and we all helped put them in the cellar through the coal chute. Lots of horse and wagons delivering produce to the markets and carrying ice to homes. Put a card in your window to let the iceman know how much ice you needed that day. The iceman wore a leather apron on his back that covered his shoulders and hung below his waist to keep dry. There was one heat vent in the house. It was placed where it would rise up the steps to heat the second and third floors. While we had a gas stove, the kitchen had no heat. There was a big coal fired stove in the kitchen that my grandmother cooked on and it also served to as heat. The living rome had a wind up RCA Victrola and lots of Italian records. The door was usually closed and was usually reserved for company. I could go on and on, but your get the idea. It was an Italian neighborhood and my grandfather started buying houses soon after he could afford them. He owned six and made sure the family all lived together,giving a house to each child when the got married. Sundays were family day and Pops house was the gathering spot. You ate one course at a time and I remember it usually took three hours or more to eat that Sunday meal. Pop kept a gallon jug of wine at his feet and glasses were passed to him for a refill. He always served the kids with some wine sweetened with 7up. We never knew if we were poor or rich and didn't give much thought to it. Looking back, I know we had little spare money but the family stuck together and shared everything with each other. I rarely saw store bought bread. Every family backed their own. My grandfather had a big grinding wheel in the back yard and would sit at the wheel while peddling it to sharpen knives. Many of our neighbors would be allowed to use it. That's all for now. I loved my childhood.
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Precious memories Nick! I thought you might have some. I grew up in a town that had a lot of Italian immigrants. I rememder the searches for dandelion greens! My mothers family came from Russia. They got out on the last day of permitted immigration! My Grandma worked three jobs in New York city, after they cleared Elis Island. My Grandfather did anything he could find to earn a wage. Tough times. Thinking of these times,I just giggle. This is nothing.
 
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GPalman said:
A box of 50 44-40 rounds was $94 plus 5,5% tax. A box of 50 Remington 22LR shells $9 plus tax. A pound of H4831 $69 plus tax. I left.
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I was just at Cabela's today and I was amazed to find a whole pallet (Shoulder High) of 5.56x45 ammo locked in the gun library with two employees. It seems that you can have 6 boxes (120 rounds) of ammo if you buy an AR-15. What about the rest of us? I've bought several rifles, pistols, and ammo at Cabela's and they show no intentions of allowing any loyal customers let alone the public to be able to purchase any ammo at all. I'm seriously thinking of canceling my Cabela's credit card if they're not going to treat me any better than that. I know who's hoarding the ammo and it's not me. By the way there wasn't any reloading powder, primers, and very few projectiles as well.
Darryll
 
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Darryll said:
I was just at Cabela's today and I was amazed to find a whole pallet (Shoulder High) of 5.56x45 ammo locked in the gun room with two employees. It seems that you can have 6 boxes (120 rounds) of ammo if you buy an AR-15. What about the rest of us? I've bought several rifles, pistols, and ammo at Cabela's and they show no intentions of allowing any loyal customers let alone the public to be able to purchase any ammo at all. I'm seriously thinking of canceling my Cabela's credit card if they're not going to treat me any better than that. I know who's hoarding the ammo and it's not me. By the way there wasn't any reloading powder, primers, and very few projectiles as well.
Darryll
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I perused the Maine Cabelas yesterday. Save for some shotgun ammo, there was absolutely nothing on their shelves for pistol, rifle ammo or reloading components. An employee I talked with said they had a bunch yesterday but it was gone in a few hours. They do have a sign up regarding when they expect their next delivery, but I'm 350 miles round trip from them. Until this settles down its online for me or nothing.

LL Bean did have rifle ammo, but in a lot of calibers that are not so popular....303 British, 9.3x62, 338 win mag but did have some 257 Roberts, 7x57. No .308win, 30-06, 243, 30-30, 32 special, 35 Remington, etc. They seemed to be selling a lot of firearms though.
 
joshb said:
One shot, one kill was the rule.
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My Dad is passed, but I remember a story by him from the depression/dustbowl days in Kansas. His folks couldn't feed him, so they sent him up to Ozawkie to live with my Great Grandfather who owned a general store there. As a young boy of 7 or so, my Dad was sent out to bring in rabbits for eating. "One shot, one kill" was indeed the rule, ... and Great Grandfather was countin'!

Ozawkie, the old town, was on the Delaware River and is now under Perry Reservoir!

BTW, ... Picked up two boxes of CCI 400 primers at Bi-Mart today (limit was two) for $3.40 a hundred.
 
Darryll said:
I was just at Cabela's today and I was amazed to find a whole pallet (Shoulder High) of 5.56x45 ammo locked in the gun library with two employees. It seems that you can have 6 boxes (120 rounds) of ammo if you buy an AR-15. What about the rest of us? I've bought several rifles, pistols, and ammo at Cabela's and they show no intentions of allowing any loyal customers let alone the public to be able to purchase any ammo at all. I'm seriously thinking of canceling my Cabela's credit card if they're not going to treat me any better than that. I know who's hoarding the ammo and it's not me. By the way there wasn't any reloading powder, primers, and very few projectiles as well.
Darryll
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Lots of gun shops are doing that very same thing. You can't sell a gun if you don't have ammo to fit it. Ar's type rifles are the hottest rifle on the market today.
 
hedgehoghunter said:
Dgd6mm ,
I feel your pain . I just got through with building a new house the materials were sky rocketing daily . Now the shocker to me was a product called Boral which I used for trim boards and corner boards . I also used James Hardie 5/8" thick siding so I had to use 2 x material . If I remember correctly 1 , 2" x 12" was around 116.00 a piece . While doing it , I said the old saying cry once .
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How long was the 2x12? You should have used lvl or lsl Instead.
 
BigJohnson2 said:
How long was the 2x12? You should have used lvl or lsl Instead.
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16' Big Johnson I'm not a fan of pvc trim . Boral works like wood doesn't rot or warp . It is very brittle . But will hold up to the elements . I live directly on the Chesapeake Bay , salt water spray , high winds and direct sun. This house I used products to last. I also used the Artisan James Hardie Siding.
 
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hedgehoghunter said:
16' Big Johnson I'm not a fan of pvc trim . Boral works like wood doesn't rot or warp . It is very brittle . But will hold up to the elements . I live directly on the Chesapeake Bay , salt water spray , high winds and direct sun. This house I used products to last. I also used the Artisan James Hardie Siding.
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Lvl is laminated veneer lumber. You can use it in place of 2x, it‘s stronger and straighter. It’s about $5/ft for 11-7/8” so 16’ would only be $80. Lsl is even cheaper.
 
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